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re: AP: memo authorizes ICE to enter homes by force without a judicial warrant
Posted on 1/21/26 at 4:33 pm to Jesterea
Posted on 1/21/26 at 4:33 pm to Jesterea
If they are illegally in the country......how can they be legally in a home in a country they are illegally in????
And how does the 4th apply to a criminal who has a removal order?
We seem to always jump past the aforementioned and start talking about "rights" of people illegally here.
And how does the 4th apply to a criminal who has a removal order?
We seem to always jump past the aforementioned and start talking about "rights" of people illegally here.
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Posted on 1/21/26 at 4:34 pm to G2160
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They’re going to use the constitution to allow the country to be destroyed. And it looks like a lot of SFP posts and this:
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If you asked them if they wanted a strong executive who doesn’t put up with shite, exacts retribution on political foes, and exercises central government control over cultural issues they agree with all with a strong nationalist bent, they would say yes. They would say any congressional member or judge who tries to stop this man is an enemy to the people.
Sounds like authoritarian bullshite, but OK.
I specifically defend the Constitution to oppose authoritarian bullshite.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 4:34 pm to Undertow
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LEO’s have always been allowed to forcefully enter a home with probable cause, without a warrant.
The test is, PC exists if they believe a crime is being comitted, not has been comitted. crossing illegally is a has been vs is beating someone is being. this is a slipery slope, just like gay marrage was that gave us all of the bullshite we have now but this is a sacrosanct right enumerated in the Bill of Rights where gay marrage, directly, is not.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 4:34 pm to G2160
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The founders never believed that the constitution could work if the people hated the country. It was never supposed to be without qualifications and limitations.
So as long as you claim that your opponents hate the country you can disregard the constitution (aka law)
Cool.. cool
Posted on 1/21/26 at 4:34 pm to trinidadtiger
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If they are illegally in the country......how can they be legally in a home in a country they are illegally in????
By being in it.
Their illegal status doesn't change the 4th Amendment and its limitations on government action.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 4:34 pm to Zahrim
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As lothed as i am to agree, SFP is correct there. 4t Ammendment shite fascinates me and i spent alot of time learning both sides. Lae Enforcdment cannot violate ghe curtlage of a home let alone enter without a search warrant. An arrest warrent is insufficent to enter.
everyone should hold 4A rights sacred.
the 4th amendment exists to protect all of us from the government, not just illegals.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 4:35 pm to thejuiceisloose
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So as long as you claim that your opponents hate the country you can disregard the constitution (aka law)
Cool.. cool
Posted on 1/21/26 at 4:35 pm to SlowFlowPro
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....now the 4th Amendment
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The Bill of Rights is the first 10 Amendments to the Constitution. It spells out Americans' rights in relation to their government.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 4:35 pm to Ingeniero
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and upends years of advice given to immigrant communities
Oh well...
Sounds like someone was giving "immigrant communities" (fricking laughable) some bad advice.
This post was edited on 1/21/26 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 1/21/26 at 4:36 pm to Zahrim
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An arrest warrent is insufficent to enter.
I believe you can enter the suspect's home with an arrest warrant, but you can't enter another person's home. So you can arrest them at their home, but you couldn't go into their mother's home, even if you know they are there.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 4:36 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Sounds like authoritarian bullshite, but OK. I specifically defend the Constitution to oppose authoritarian bullshite.
Except that you’re too stupid to realize that the other side doesn’t give a shite about the constitution except as a shield while they work to destroy the country.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 4:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
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By being in it.
Their illegal status doesn't change the 4th Amendment and its limitations on government action.
How does the constitution apply to an illegal criminal who should not be here.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 4:38 pm to Ingeniero
Seems to me if you're here illegally, you do not have United States Constitutional rights. Out you go....GTFO
Posted on 1/21/26 at 4:38 pm to thejuiceisloose
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So as long as you claim that your opponents hate the country you can disregard the constitution (aka law)
My opponents aren’t using the constitution within the intended limitations.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 4:39 pm to Zahrim
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he test is, PC exists if they believe a crime is being comitted, not has been comitted. crossing illegally is a has been vs is beating someone is being. this is a slipery slope, just like gay marrage was that gave us all of the bullshite we have now but this is a sacrosanct right enumerated in the Bill of Rights where gay marrage, directly, is not.
False equivalency.
Your premise conveniently leaves out the part where the open borders and unfettered illegals immigration is a scheme to undo our republic wholesale. But by all means scream at the sky because the final order for removal didn’t get cleared by a commie in a robe.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 4:40 pm to Robin Masters
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False equivalency.
Your premise conveniently leaves out the part where the open borders and unfettered illegals immigration is a scheme to undo our republic wholesale. But by all means scream at the sky because the final order for removal didn’t get cleared by a commie in a robe.
"If we decide that the law being broken is super duper bad then the constitution doesn't apply and we can do what we want"
-Robin Masters, Esq.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 4:41 pm to G2160
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Except that you’re too stupid to realize that the other side doesn’t give a shite about the constitution except as a shield while they work to destroy the country.
Your emotional-based arguments won't work on me. I defend rationality to oppose such emotionality in rhetoric.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 4:42 pm to 4cubbies
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We should probably just jail everyone to ensure no one else gets raped or murdered
Just stick with the illegals.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 4:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
I know they won’t work on you. That’s why you’re the way that you are.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 4:42 pm to Robin Masters
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Your premise conveniently leaves out the part where the open borders and unfettered illegals immigration is a scheme to undo our republic wholesale. But by all means scream at the sky because the final order for removal didn’t get cleared by a commie in a robe.
wait I thought they have been deporting illegals for months now?
the 4th amendment doesn't stop ICE from deporting illegals, it stops police/ICE from entering your home without a warrant, so that they don't just go breaking into peoples homes whenever they like it.
This post was edited on 1/21/26 at 4:46 pm
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