re: Any takers for a discussion about “Marxian economics”?

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My point is that the general argument when people bring up worker productivity is that because they are theoretically more productive that they are more valuable individually. But precisely the opposite is actually true. I mean I can do my particular job probably 10 times faster than somebody doing the same exact job could do it in 1970. But that's not because I'm 10 times better quicker or smarter or anything else. It's because I have access to 10 times better quicker Smarter Tools. So am I providing the added value or did the employer Who provided the tools create the added value?

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if the tools can’t do the job without the person, then the person is more productive using the tools. The tools are useless on their own. The person is not useless without the tools.

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So, do you believe Lindsay Clancy is guilty or not guilty?

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So just to be clear…. Not going to respond to a single one of my logical retorts to your emotional takes? Not a single one?


Highest disposable income in world history.

Roughly 34k makes you the 1% of the world.

Capitalism has pulled more people out of poverty than any other system in human history.

Lindsey Clancy deserves to be strangled to death in the manner she murdered her innocent children.

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Consumers didn’t decide to stagnate their wages.

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And? Your stance relies on the idea that jobs are there for workers when the opposite is true: workers are there for the jobs.

For purposes of this conversation, workers are a product just like anything else. Supply and demand here meet at Price as well, except instead of Price we call this "Wage".

Prior to COVID we saw Boomers starting to age out of the workforce. The new, young workers didn't have that same dedication to a given company so job-jumping was quite common. That job-jumping meant Supply fluctuated while there was also an increase in Demand. That expressed itself as real wages increasing.

Along with that, you have to remember that determining real wages (because that's what we're really talking about) is a function of the value of the Dollar. The Dollar's value is determined primarily through three methods:

1. The PetroDollar (the desirability of using the Dollar to buy and sell petroleum on the international market)
2. The Preferred Reserve Currency (the currency most desired to trade goods between countries)
3. US Debt as an investment vehicle.

Along with workers, the Dollar is subject to the Law of Supply & Demand as well. The definition of inflation is too much money chasing too few goods and services. Thus, the more deficit Dollars the government creates from thin air, the less value each Dollar has and that's expressed as higher prices (since it takes more Dollars to equal the value of whatever thing).

Businesses have no control over that, the federal government does. Both Democrats and Republicans have presided over an environment of explosive and constant growth in deficit spending so let's not devolve to the useless party-blaming when both have engaged heavily in it (otherwise we wouldn't be in this position).

Businesses also aren't under any obligation to provide their workers a "living wage" (which is a subjective amount). What they are obligated to is to provide a safe work environment along with pay and benefits enough to attract and keep workers based on their demand for workers (including specified expertise positions) and the supply of workers with needed skills (or at least the ability to learn the skills).

Wages stagnating across the board aren't the problem nor are they a problem with capitalism; they are a symptom of a larger problem and it usually involves government over-reach of some sort.

Please tell me where you found this because it is completely an internet myth

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Roughly 34k makes you the 1% of the world. Capitalism has pulled more people out of poverty than any other system in human history.

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Let me guess


We need foreigners to increase our gdp




The average little Pygmy sentinel islander that ate michael Rockefeller in the 70s is 100x happier than your average American and he’s also healthier etc


It’s like how North Koreans are all like 5’2 and perfectly happy because without capitalism their women never develop hypergamy and the men have no reason to grow taller than 6 foot

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n theory Marxian economics (just like socialism and communism that are forms of it) sounds great.

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Marxian economics is just critical economics.

It is critical economics yes just like many other economic theories. But is also the foundation for socialism and communism. You don't have these two systems without Marxian economics.

Answer the question where did you see that peasants only worked 100 days a year? I can tell you what the myth is based off of and how things actually worked. Before I do that though I wanna see if you get your info from TIKTOK

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Answer the question where did you see that peasants only worked 100 days a year? I can tell you what the myth is based off of and how things actually worked. Before I do that though I wanna see if you get your info from TIKTOK

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he’s just being silly