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Any of you know COBOL?
Posted on 4/8/20 at 4:16 pm
Posted on 4/8/20 at 4:16 pm
CNN
Article mentions CT, KS, ME, MD, MS and OK relying heavily on the 60 year old language.
I had a work-study job in a community college in AL where one of my regular tasks was to submit payroll data into the state retirement system, which ran on an IBM System 36 running COBOL. That was in 1979.
This country is so hopelessly fricked.
quote:Looking for “volunteers”. Good luck with that.
In New Jersey, Gov. Phil Murphy has put out a call for volunteers who know how to code the decades-old computer programming language called COBOL because many of the state's systems still run on older mainframes.
quote:Gross incompetence, with a side order of corruption?
"Literally, we have systems that are 40-plus-years-old," New Jersey Gov. Murphy said over the weekend. "There'll be lots of postmortems and one of them on our list will be how did we get here where we literally needed COBOL programmers?"
Article mentions CT, KS, ME, MD, MS and OK relying heavily on the 60 year old language.
I had a work-study job in a community college in AL where one of my regular tasks was to submit payroll data into the state retirement system, which ran on an IBM System 36 running COBOL. That was in 1979.
This country is so hopelessly fricked.
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Posted on 4/8/20 at 4:18 pm to FearlessFreep
95% of ATM transactions are handled by COBOL
Posted on 4/8/20 at 4:18 pm to FearlessFreep
FORTRAN next?
Posted on 4/8/20 at 4:21 pm to FearlessFreep
Here is the other thread in this topic: LINK
Posted on 4/8/20 at 4:22 pm to FearlessFreep
Yes, for the past 13 years now.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 4:22 pm to FearlessFreep
quote:
Article mentions CT, KS, ME, MD, MS and OK relying heavily on the 60 year old language.
I hate to tell you but some Fed Gov systems... including treasury, run on it too.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 4:25 pm to FearlessFreep
Are you kidding me? There is a lot of legacy software out there running COBOL, including private industry.
This is how out of touch CEO's and other individuals running companies are today or were in the near past (since 2000). They didn't want to pay to do it right and farmed projects out to India on the cheap.
One can make a lot of money contracting right now, if one wants to put up with the BS.
This is how out of touch CEO's and other individuals running companies are today or were in the near past (since 2000). They didn't want to pay to do it right and farmed projects out to India on the cheap.
One can make a lot of money contracting right now, if one wants to put up with the BS.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 4:30 pm to FearlessFreep
quote:
Any of you know COBOL?
Put it this way. State computer networks running on COBOL are the equivalent of law enforcement patrolling the steeets like this....
Posted on 4/8/20 at 4:34 pm to FearlessFreep
I know PASCAL
Posted on 4/8/20 at 4:36 pm to FearlessFreep
I have had versions of this story sent to me by email and 2 different texts over the last few days.
It is New Jersey. It is $85/hr. That wouldn't cover security in that war zone.
It is New Jersey. It is $85/hr. That wouldn't cover security in that war zone.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 4:37 pm to FearlessFreep
Learn to Code.
But check this article out
But check this article out
quote:
U.S. Air Force Finally Ditches 8-Inch Floppy Disks
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Popular Mechanics
OCT 22, 2019
This post was edited on 4/8/20 at 4:42 pm
Posted on 4/8/20 at 4:37 pm to FearlessFreep
Find some Andersen Consulting orphans.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 4:37 pm to FearlessFreep
In 90 or 91 I took one COBOL class and switched my major afterwards 
Posted on 4/8/20 at 4:38 pm to FearlessFreep
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That was in 1979.
This country is so hopelessly fricked.
i was in rooms-to-go a couple years ago or so and their point-of-sale had crashed so I took a pic
NOTE THE DATE IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT CORNER
PS COBOL programmers have large mansions and drive around in Mercedes Benzes so someone appreciates their knowledge.
This post was edited on 4/8/20 at 4:56 pm
Posted on 4/8/20 at 4:43 pm to FearlessFreep
Some state of LA agencies transitioned off of COBOL mainframes over a period of years in the 2000s.
Not because it didn’t work but because trying to get new developers to work on it was a massive pain in the arse. No college in the state taught it anymore so you pretty much had to put together a boot camp for any new employee to learn it.
The funny / sad part is that there was a huge push for COBOL programmers in the 90s during the Y2K push. Apparently a lot of these organizations fixed their two-digit year problem but didn’t transition their shite off COBOL and onto a system written in a more commonly used language.
Not because it didn’t work but because trying to get new developers to work on it was a massive pain in the arse. No college in the state taught it anymore so you pretty much had to put together a boot camp for any new employee to learn it.
The funny / sad part is that there was a huge push for COBOL programmers in the 90s during the Y2K push. Apparently a lot of these organizations fixed their two-digit year problem but didn’t transition their shite off COBOL and onto a system written in a more commonly used language.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 4:45 pm to Crimson Wraith
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FORTRAN next?
Shut yer whore mouth. I learned FORTRAN in undergrad.
Spent 40 straight hours in the computer lab once (back when you had to go to one of these) trying to debug a program that even some grad students couldn’t figure out. Finally converted it to hex and found a hidden control character that must have been typed in with clumsy fingers. (At least it wasn’t punch cards, I guess.) Vowed I would never be a CS major.
I have taught myself to be functional in VBA. Plenty functional for my purposes.
This post was edited on 4/8/20 at 4:46 pm
Posted on 4/8/20 at 4:50 pm to teke184
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Apparently a lot of these organizations fixed their two-digit year problem but didn’t transition their shite off COBOL and onto a system written in a more commonly used language.
i personally know several COBOL programmer millionaires.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 4:51 pm to Ag Zwin
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(At least it wasn’t punch cards, I guess.) Vowed I would never be a CS major.
you haven't lived until you've dropped all your carefully programmed and sorted punch cards into a pile on the floor en route to feeding them into the mainframe...
This post was edited on 4/8/20 at 4:53 pm
Posted on 4/8/20 at 4:54 pm to FearlessFreep
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FearlessFreep
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Gross incompetence, with a side order of corruption?
Article mentions CT, KS, ME, MD, MS and OK relying heavily on the 60 year old language.
I had a work-study job in a community college in AL where one of my regular tasks was to submit payroll data into the state retirement system, which ran on an IBM System 36 running COBOL. That was in 1979.
This country is so hopelessly fricked.
I worked for a State Agency as a Project Manager on the SoftwareDev side for several years. We had tons of MF Systems running on COBOL. Security was terrible and PII and private business info was exposed bigtime.
It's literally pre-DOS.
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