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re: Antarctica has not warmed in 70 yrs! Scientists do pretzel twists trying to explain why.

Posted on 2/2/23 at 7:24 am to
Posted by bstew3006
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Posted on 2/2/23 at 7:24 am to
We’re in a warning trend, ice core samples confirm this.

We’re also at the “median” of extreme Warm/cool cycles, ice core samples confirm this.

Climatologist, many of those “97%” and members of the IPCC peer reviews, have stated their findings have been Mia-characterized by MSM and politicians who make climate policy.

In short, stop listening to Gore, Kerry and a teenager.
Posted by High Desert
Member since Jan 2023
265 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 7:28 am to
Ya know, it's not the study in the OP by itself that drives me nuts. It's the fact that THIS is what "Science" has devolved to.

Scientists used to do study after study CHALLENGING their own assumptions. But with the overwhelming majority of research dollars now coming from governments, such is no longer the case.

NOW, it's, "oh look, there's some data that seems in conflict with our sacred cow........we need to EXPLAIN it!!!".

And, of course, explaining such things isn't a crime. What IS a crime is the fact that you ain't gonna get one fricking dollar from the government to do a study that says, "hey, look, some data doesn't agree with the sacred cow, let's see if it's because the cow is dead".
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 2/2/23 at 7:35 am to
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It turns out 95% of excess GG's are generated north of the equator
There is a reason warmists going through contortions to explain lack of antarctic warming did not raise that issue.

Can you guess what that reason is?

The Northern vs Southern difference in atmospheric CO2 is ~3ppm (i.e., < 0.75%). The reason for difference is multifactorial, but substantially d/t oceanic uptake.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
46860 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 7:39 am to
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The big question is where is all that extra heat HIDING? They insist it must be out there somewhere. It HAS to be.



The Warmists simply haven't found it yet.

You are just lying. They absolutely HAVE found it. In fact, it was the extra heat that triggered the global warming hysteria. No serious people deny that the average earth temperature is warming. The debates are over how much and what is the cause.
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
33254 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 7:48 am to
Remember the ozone hole caused by worldwide use of CFCs? Assume this use occurred in greater quantity in the northern hemisphere.

The ozone hole was over Antarctica
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
92541 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 7:52 am to
Fear is always used to sell control. I wish more people could see that.
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20458 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 8:01 am to
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Note to warmists: You gotta make up your minds


They can’t! They have to play both sides and call it climate change because it’s all fabricated bullshite.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 8:03 am to
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There's unequal distribution of global warming due to a skewed distribution of excess gaseous carbon production between the northern and southern hemispheres.
BWAAA HAAAA HA HA HAAAA!!
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 2/2/23 at 8:05 am to
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The Northern vs Southern difference in atmospheric CO2 is ~3ppm (i.e., < 0.75%). The reason for difference is multifactorial, but substantially d/t oceanic uptake.

LOT OF OCEAN down south

South Pacific/South Atlantic/Indian MASSIVE
Posted by Pezzo
Member since Aug 2020
2575 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 8:06 am to
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It's the fact that THIS is what "Science" has devolved to.


This isnt "real" science though. This is big money Lobby Agenda "science"

same category as the "gender science"
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 8:06 am to
the thread topic is the effect of certain mountains on warming .

does not address melting ice shelf as "warmer" ocean water bathes underside which is also True.

two things true at once.
a paradox.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 2/2/23 at 8:06 am to
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The temperature trend in Antartica does not mean a whole lot on its own.
You've been under a rock during the last 15 years of NASA et al screaming about pervasive loss of Antarctic continental ice?
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The earth is, in fact, warming.
No shite Einstein. Glaciers 2000 ft tall aren't currently advancing over Manhattan Island. What is the significance of that "fact"?
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
21469 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 8:07 am to
But, but, but....NYC is going to flood in a few years....

Global warming: the new geo-political football!

It's all about piles of money, period.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
35820 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 8:13 am to
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You are just lying.


Thanks for your idiotic reply. There are few things which will get my attention more than triggered snowflakes, such as yourself, who make kneejerk reactions without taking a millisecond to think.

Where is global warming's missing heat?

Science

Nov 14, 2014 <- NOTE THE DATE HERE

Call it the climate change conundrum: Even though humans are pumping more greenhouse gases than ever into the atmosphere, the world's average air temperature isn't rising as quickly as it once did. Some scientists have proposed that the missing heat is actually being trapped deep underwater by the Pacific Ocean. But a new modeling study concludes that the Pacific isn't acting alone. Instead, it finds, several of the world's oceans are playing a role in the warming slowdown by absorbing their share of the "missing" heat.

"There are a lot of details about exactly which ocean basin is taking up the energy," says Andrew Dessler, an atmospheric scientist at Texas A&M University, College Station, who wasn't involved in the study. But "I don't see anything in here that changes our expectations of long-term climate change."

The world's average air temperature has warmed 0.8°C since the late 1880s, but the warming has slowed precipitously in the last 15 years. Scientists have identified a number of factors—among them a temporary downturn in solar activity and more sun-blocking aerosol pollution—that at least partially explain why air temperatures have barely risen since the turn of the millennium. But recent research suggests that Earth is still taking in more energy from the sun than it's letting out, to the tune of almost a 60-watt light bulb's worth for every 100 square meters. This excess energy has to go somewhere. A potential answer? The tropical Pacific Ocean. Changing trade winds here may have helped lower sea surface temperatures by altering ocean circulation patterns and making it so heat that otherwise would be warming the air is now trapped deep underwater.



This from the side which is fully onboard with the man-made climate change nonsense. The debate is settled crowd. And yet, the 'missing heat' question remains as it did 10 years ago a mystery to the SCIENCE.
Posted by Robin Masters
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Posted on 2/2/23 at 8:19 am to
Climate fear is the con that cannot be caught.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 2/2/23 at 8:40 am to
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If not, leave the growups alone.
Looks like this thread turned into an "Adult Swim."
Posted by F73ME
SE LA
Member since May 2018
903 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 9:16 am to
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There's unequal distribution of global warming due to a skewed distribution of excess gaseous carbon production between the northern and southern hemispheres.


Are we to assume that you believe the air in the northern and southern hemispheres don't mix?
Posted by philter
Member since Dec 2004
8967 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 9:21 am to
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does not address melting ice shelf as "warmer" ocean water bathes underside which is also True.



Untrue:

First line they admit it's been growing for 20 years

Second line they try to hint it's going to shrink again, soon..please shrink soon.
quote:

Floating ice shelves advanced between 2002 and 2019, following two decades of retreat.

An increased number of iceberg calving events since 2020 could signal that this period of ice advance may be coming to an end.


Cambridge - hurts them to report this
This post was edited on 2/2/23 at 9:22 am
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
14501 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 9:37 am to
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Some scientists have proposed that the missing heat is actually being trapped deep underwater by the Pacific Ocean.

I love this.

I reallyneed to rethink the whole heat rises science.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
131042 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 9:39 am to
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ice shelf
Floating, i.e., sea ice. Correct?

Yet Antarctic sea ice has been increasing. Not decreasing. Correct?
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