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re: Another Point of View on Abortion
Posted on 5/5/22 at 10:11 am to rltiger
Posted on 5/5/22 at 10:11 am to rltiger
quote:Small derail, but criminalizing either act is ridiculous.
Suicide used to be a felony in the US, but has been decriminalized primarily because there is no one left to prosecute. Attempted suicide is still a crime
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Posted on 5/5/22 at 10:11 am to TygerTyger
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Nobody has the right to use your body against your will
Are Leftists really okay with bodily autonomy?
Seems to me bodily autonomy would mean I get to choose who benefits from my labor and by how much.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 10:12 am to AggieHank86
quote:
And your position is entirely dependent upon accepting YOUR premise that a fetus has ANY rights whatsoever
To be fair, it probably isn’t his premise. There is a legal basis.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 10:13 am to TygerTyger
quote:It's a sick way to view your child.
What's your thoughts?
Posted on 5/5/22 at 10:20 am to AggieHank86
quote:If the answer is "NO" then it gets overturned and the "policy questions" are moot. Let the states that want to figure that out. You and I both know that the answer is NO and it will be overturned.
that may answer the question of “Is there a Constitutional right,” but it does nothing to address the policy questions regarding abortion.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 10:23 am to AggieHank86
quote:
that is simplistic.
Because it's not all that complicated. You need philosophical gymnastics to reach any other point.
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What is the precedent for the notion that the state can force a woman to serve as a biolgical incubator for an organism that she does not wish to incubate?
The precedent that murder is illegal. If you kill a pregnant woman and the fetus dies, it's considered a double-murder in a majority of states.
This post was edited on 5/5/22 at 10:26 am
Posted on 5/5/22 at 10:26 am to wareaglepete
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I think maybe the sickest thing about this whole deal is that these vile people just think about it as killing someone else.
I believe we are seeing the left coming out admitting they are fine with killing another human. They have danced around this for years but science shows what abortion really is. Pro-abortionists are fine with killing babies.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 10:32 am to Diamondawg
quote:State legislatures don’t address policy questions where you live?
it gets overturned and the "policy questions" are moot.
Here in Texas, I am fairly certain we do.
This post was edited on 5/5/22 at 10:40 am
Posted on 5/5/22 at 10:39 am to blackinthesaddle
quote:
How far do we take this "you made your bed" thing?
I don't know. Why don't you tell me what any of that jibber jabber you posted has to do with killing a baby?
Maybe I can try to figure it out. I got in an accident, and maybe it was me running into someone else's car. I go get my broke leg worked on at the hospital.
This compared with a female having some guy trip and fall and land on her with his unit entering her and getting her pregant. Hey, accidents happen, right? But then the solution is to kill a baby. How is that related?
This post was edited on 5/5/22 at 10:40 am
Posted on 5/5/22 at 10:39 am to AggieHank86
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And your position is entirely dependent upon accepting YOUR premise that a fetus has ANY rights whatsoever … including one of “bodily autonomy.”
If you balance even the most insignificant right of an entity who does HAVE rights against the interest of an entity that has NO legal rights, the first entity wins automatically.
People have inalienable rights. That is simply fact. It is incumbent on those arguing for abortion to first prove that the unborn is in fact not a person, or admit that it is a person and for some arbitrary reason it is ok to kill them. It just isn't a great argument for the pro-abortion crowd which is why they try to avoid it all together.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 10:40 am to TygerTyger
The same political party that uses this ideology also told me last year that I should be fired for not injecting myself with an experimental drug.
They can take their logic and shove it up their arse.
They can take their logic and shove it up their arse.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 10:40 am to Bard
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By that logic, anyone who can't feed themselves has no bodily autonomy.
I also said gestational period, idiot (you know, the period of time that it takes for an embryo to actually grow into a viable human being that can have a chance at living outside of the body).
A human fetus literally has to be within an amniotic sac and gestates (normally for 9 months, notwithstanding premature birth) until its organs are developed and has a chance at living outside of the pregnant host's body.
So, if you can find a way for a fetus to not be within another human being for nine months (gestational period) and not require a placenta, umbilical chord, and amniotic sac (which the pregnant host grows to protect it and supply its nutrition), it does not have bodily autonomy.
... but thanks for being deliberately obtuse.
This post was edited on 5/5/22 at 10:43 am
Posted on 5/5/22 at 10:44 am to TygerTyger
None of that matters.
Not my business, don’t care what you do.
Personally I think abortions after a certain timeframe is pretty terrible, but that person has to live with that for the rest of their lives.
Freak shows of the poli board virtue signaling to Jesus and god on here is laughable.
Not my business, don’t care what you do.
Personally I think abortions after a certain timeframe is pretty terrible, but that person has to live with that for the rest of their lives.
Freak shows of the poli board virtue signaling to Jesus and god on here is laughable.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 10:44 am to TygerTyger
"Nobody has the right to use your body against your will."
I'm pretty sure the people who have their bodies in prison are there against their will.
I'm pretty sure the people who have their bodies in prison are there against their will.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 10:49 am to TygerTyger
I'd bet that a-hole was sharing pro-vaxx memes and saying that anyone who refused to take part in the forced medical experiment was selfish and evil. frick 'em.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 10:49 am to Bard
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philosophical gymnastics
Amen!
Pro-choice people: "I can choose for my child, but you can't choose for me!!!'
Absolutely fricking brilliant, no?
Posted on 5/5/22 at 10:54 am to AggieHank86
quote:
The simple fact is that many Americans do not care what opinions might be attributed to the Abrahamic diety.
On this side of Eternity, probably not. But one day, they will.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 10:55 am to TygerTyger
Why WOMEN abort
97% are for “social and economic reasons.” AKA- sluts.
97% are for “social and economic reasons.” AKA- sluts.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 11:02 am to TD422
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Pro-choice people: "It's not 'murder' if it inconveniences me!"
Fixed.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 11:06 am to TygerTyger
The body inside your body is a life and is sacred. You do not have the right to terminate that life.
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