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re: Another activist judge rules against deporting pro-Palestinian academics illegal

Posted on 9/30/25 at 5:52 pm to
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
42156 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 5:52 pm to
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These
Aren't
Americans


Posted by coolpapaboze
Parts Unknown
Member since Dec 2006
21767 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 5:58 pm to
Is this the judge who added an addendum to his ruling that is like a 12 page rant about Trump's personality?

Yes, it is.

According to Grok:
quote:

The opinion ends with an extended personal reflection, invoking a quote from Young's wife ("He ignores everything and keeps bullying ahead") to critique Trump's governance style, warning that the president cynically exploits public division to erode rights, and calling on Americans to defend constitutional values. Young described this as his "most important" ruling in 30 years on the bench.


Seems totally appropriate.

Also, I believe this guy was appointed by Reagan as part of an agreement with Tip O'Neill to appoint bipartisan judges. Remember when the two sides used to actually work together and compromise with each other?

Posted by Rex Feral
Somewhere near Athens
Member since Jan 2014
16567 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 5:59 pm to
fricking boomers.
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
21557 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 6:10 pm to
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but don’t we as a country agree with free speech?


For citizens... it isn't exactly rocket science to not speak ill or go activist against the country you are visiting.

They have the specially granted permission to be here as long as, and no longer than, the executive will have them.
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
21557 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 6:14 pm to
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See if you can spot the problem...


quote:

The President’s palpable misunderstanding that the government simply cannot seek retribution for speech he disdains

poses a great threat to Americans’ freedom of speech,” Young wrote,


frickin found it.
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
11811 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 6:17 pm to
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If you are here illegally, this administration wants you gone.


FIFY retard
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138693 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 6:18 pm to
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I love how it’s written as a response to the anonymous postcard writer.
Tremendous maturity on the Judge's part ...
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
33190 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 6:31 pm to
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For citizens... it isn't exactly rocket science to not speak ill or go activist against the country you are visiting.

I get this line of thinking. I didn’t read the article or the opinion, are these people saying anti-American things or are they only pro-Palestine?
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
21557 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 6:39 pm to
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I didn’t read the article or the opinion, are these people saying anti-American things or are they only pro-Palestine?


The two go hand in hand... ask Shapiro, a democrat.
This post was edited on 9/30/25 at 7:23 pm
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
7756 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 8:33 pm to
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decried Trump’s “great threat to Americans’ freedom of speech.”

Ummmmmmmm visa holders aren't Americans doofus.
Posted by hansenthered1
Dixie
Member since Nov 2023
2638 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 8:38 pm to
The Judge is clearly saying that if you are here legally, the constitution applies to you. This means the 1st Amendment.

Why are the reactionary right so dense when it comes to this stuff? If we are at war with some country or the person here is actively engaged in illegal activity to oppose the government or they are found to be operating on behalf of another government they will be deported.

If they are here legally and say something that the administration doesn't like that needs to be tolerated. If we start down this path the 1st becomes meaningless and that will come back to bite the right when they are out of power.

For the love of Trump some of yall are willing to toss the constitution out the window.
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
7756 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 9:04 pm to
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The Judge is clearly saying that if you are here legally, the constitution applies to you. This means the 1st Amendment.


Frick that. It's disrespectful to go to another nation and do what they've been doing. They need to know their place. Having an opinion in a coffee shop isn't the same as protesting/rioting.

"Here legally" =/= Citizen.
Posted by hansenthered1
Dixie
Member since Nov 2023
2638 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 5:56 am to
The constitution applies to everyone in the USA. If you don't like that get out. Some of yall never had a basic civics class or you failed the one you took.

The God Given Rights expressed in the Bill of Rights and Constitution are not something that apply to only citizens.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
23663 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 6:22 am to
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deliberate attack on free speech meant to “strike fear” into non-citizen students and chill campus protests.



Lol... duh! A university should be a place for learning and not allow traitorous agitators to provoke violent "protest".
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
24326 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 6:27 am to
Well if he was appointed by Reagan he is a boomer and is probably losing his mind.

We seem to have an epidemic of boomers going woke and stupid
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
28518 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 6:28 am to
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If they are here legally doesn’t it make sense they shouldn’t be deported for speaking their opinions? I



If their opinion is that innocent women and children should be murdered then yes, they are undesireable. A US citizen has some right to speak that opinion but a guest does not
This post was edited on 10/1/25 at 6:52 am
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
38324 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 6:30 am to
Ignore him!
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
23663 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 6:38 am to
quote:

quote:
but don’t we as a country agree with free speech?


For citizens... it isn't exactly rocket science to not speak ill or go activist against the country you are visiting.

They have the specially granted permission to be here as long as, and no longer than, the executive will have them



SallysHuman, isnt it amazing that has to be explained???
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30551 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 6:39 am to
Tell the judge to enforce his order...
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
21557 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 6:58 am to
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SallysHuman, isnt it amazing that has to be explained???


These people are taking crazy pills!
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