Started By
Message

re: Angola prisoners ask to end field work in worst heat

Posted on 6/19/24 at 1:15 pm to
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31528 posts
Posted on 6/19/24 at 1:15 pm to
quote:

Deterrence is part of a successful criminal justice system.



Centuries of history has proven this not to be the case though.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
35926 posts
Posted on 6/19/24 at 1:20 pm to
quote:

88 degrees






And he's referring to heat index, not actual air temperature. That's like saying they don't want to work when it's over 80 outside.

Gtfo.
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
10220 posts
Posted on 6/19/24 at 1:32 pm to
quote:

88 degrees

The 88 degrees is the magic number that these activities want to use. They have tried this number before and lost.

Here is an article form 2018 where the US 5th Circuit said that death row didn’t even need to make sure it always below 88 inside.

quote:

A three-judge panel of the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in New Orleans said the state does not have to prevent heat indexes at the Angola prison from topping 88 degrees as a Baton Rouge federal judge previously ordered. The appellate court ruled that Chief U.S. District Judge Brian Jackson erred by setting the 88-degree threshold and sent the civil rights case The advocate

Posted by Dex Morgan
Member since Nov 2022
3227 posts
Posted on 6/19/24 at 1:35 pm to
Except chances are there is a not insignificant % that are wrongly convicted.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
35926 posts
Posted on 6/19/24 at 1:35 pm to
quote:


Is your husband compensated? Did he choose his job? Is he able to take a day off? Do people riding on horses point guns at him while he works?


Can you share just what exactly you expect a prison that serves the type of criminals that Angola serves is supposed to look like?

Do you really think Angola should be providing desk jobs paying $50k a year, in AC, with 3 weeks vacation?
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63030 posts
Posted on 6/19/24 at 1:40 pm to
quote:

Some people are being paid to work on the heat, which justifies others being forced to do it?


The conviction justifies it.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63030 posts
Posted on 6/19/24 at 1:42 pm to
quote:

They probably have access to hats, clean water and sunscreen, not to mention compensation


Well yeah, they aren’t in prison.

I don’t know why this stumps you. We’re you under the misconception that one doesn’t lose some rights as a result of a conviction?
Posted by samson73103
Krypton
Member since Nov 2008
9298 posts
Posted on 6/19/24 at 1:46 pm to
quote:

halt operations of the Farm Line any time the heat index rises above 88 degrees.

What a bunch of pussies! I grew up on a farm and worked many days putting in rice levee gates with a shovel or walking polypipe when the heat index was above 100 degrees.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134899 posts
Posted on 6/19/24 at 1:47 pm to
quote:

Is your husband compensated?
Irrelevant.
quote:

Did he choose his job?
Did the criminals in Angola choose to commit a crime?
quote:

Is he able to take a day off?
Irrelevant.
quote:

Do people riding on horses point guns at him while he works?
Does that make the temperature worse?
Posted by joshua2571
Member since Nov 2015
8293 posts
Posted on 6/19/24 at 1:51 pm to
We get 3 day break with 88 or 89 degree weather and right back at almost touching 100 and it’s only June but I’m not a criminal and I got AC
Posted by Dex Morgan
Member since Nov 2022
3227 posts
Posted on 6/19/24 at 1:51 pm to
quote:

Well yeah, they aren’t in prison.

I don’t know why this stumps you. We’re you under the misconception that one doesn’t lose some rights as a result of a conviction?


Do you understand how deeply flawed the US judicial system is? Do you know just how many people are sitting in prison who are innocent?

I guess you believe Trump actually committed 30+ felonies.
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
10688 posts
Posted on 6/19/24 at 1:53 pm to
quote:

Do you know just how many people are sitting in prison who are innocent?


Less than 1%.
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
14665 posts
Posted on 6/19/24 at 1:55 pm to
quote:

Do you understand how deeply flawed the US judicial system is?

Yep, sure do.

quote:

Do you know just how many people are sitting in prison who are innocent?

Far less than people that are guilty who are NOT sitting in prison yet should be.
This post was edited on 6/19/24 at 1:56 pm
Posted by crash1211
Houma
Member since May 2008
3713 posts
Posted on 6/19/24 at 1:56 pm to
For what it's worth. According to wiki in 2010. 71% of inmates were serving a life sentence.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61380 posts
Posted on 6/19/24 at 2:09 pm to
quote:

And this is political....how?


Who runs prisons?

Or do you not think government organizations run by political appointees are political?

Is incarceration not a matter of government policy?

Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61380 posts
Posted on 6/19/24 at 2:11 pm to
quote:

This sounds worse than slavery if true


You’re not serious are you?

This is akin to modern day slavery but I wouldn’t classify it as worse than actual chattel slavery.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61380 posts
Posted on 6/19/24 at 2:14 pm to
quote:

Except chances are there is a not insignificant % that are wrongly convicted.


Especially those convicted by non-unanimous juries.
Posted by Dex Morgan
Member since Nov 2022
3227 posts
Posted on 6/19/24 at 2:14 pm to
quote:

Far less than people that are guilty who are NOT sitting in prison yet should be.


Ah, so that makes it ok.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61380 posts
Posted on 6/19/24 at 2:15 pm to
quote:

Less than 1%.


How did you come up with this figure?
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61380 posts
Posted on 6/19/24 at 2:19 pm to
quote:

don’t know why this stumps you. We’re you under the misconception that one doesn’t lose some rights as a result of a conviction?

I think the disconnect between us is that you are under the impression that the state never gets anything wrong and always prosecutes and convicts guilty people using ethical practices.

I don’t operate under that assumption.
Jump to page
Page First 4 5 6 7 8 ... 11
Jump to page
first pageprev pagePage 6 of 11Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on X, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookXInstagram