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Posted on 2/8/26 at 10:13 am to hashtag
It’s not really an issue of north or south..,
Posted on 2/8/26 at 10:14 am to UtahCajun
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I would suspect that Angola's policy writers would be smart enough to mirror the policies of industrial work done in the same conditions.
You would be mistaken. That’s what sparked the 2023 class action lawsuit. Inmates said water to drink was dirty and full of insects. They had to work in extreme heat, etc.
quote:it’s not all work. For example, every license plate in Louisiana was made by inmates. Lots of medical equipment is produced by inmates. I was at a conference a few months ago that had rocking horses up for a raffle that were made by inmates. It’s the farm line that they are alleging is inhumane - or certain aspects of the farm line.
If they continue down the path of trying to prove the work is inhumane,
Posted on 2/8/26 at 10:17 am to 4cubbies
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society So when the poster said jail exists not to seek revenge but to protect society from criminals, he actually meant jail exists to punish people for arbitrary amounts of time?
You’re on the 10% side of a 90/10 issue. Prisons exist to get bad people away from normal people. They have rehabilitation programs even at places like Angola. Hell an inmate can take college courses if the are a minimum custody inmate. Inmates are sentenced to a determine amount of time with ability to earn good time in some states. Federal inmates can’t earn good time.
Most of the inmates at Angola are there for 3 reasons 1.) sentence longer than 20 years, 2.) escape risk, or 3.) security risk. They all earned there way there.
Posted on 2/8/26 at 10:17 am to 4cubbies
Exactly which is one of multiple instances in which it fails as a legal document for vagueness. It is a dead letter to all intents and purposes in any legitimate sense.
Posted on 2/8/26 at 10:18 am to White Tiger
But we treat it like a magic 8 ball in this country.
Posted on 2/8/26 at 10:19 am to 4cubbies
Can’t do the time, don’t do the crime. Or something like that
Posted on 2/8/26 at 10:20 am to 4cubbies
Yes. That’s what the ptb count on. It was neither created nor ratified legitimately. No evidence that a Constitutional Convention ever took place.
Posted on 2/8/26 at 10:21 am to lsufan1971
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They all earned there way there.
That’s an awful lot of trust you place in the State. There are hundreds of people there who were convicted by non-unanimous juries.
Posted on 2/8/26 at 10:23 am to White Tiger
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No evidence that a Constitutional Convention ever took place.
This sounds like an interesting rabbit hole.
Posted on 2/8/26 at 10:23 am to lsufan1971
So naive. Hahahahahaaaa
Posted on 2/8/26 at 10:24 am to 4cubbies
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There are hundreds of people there who were convicted by non-unanimous juries
I mean. You would label a police officer that didn’t engage with Trayvon martin as a murderer.
You also label innocent jail workers as murderers of Sandra bland.
You do this even though both are easily provable to be complete fabrications and lies and yet, like a true believer, you continue to believe such nonsense.
All you have to do is say “I was wrong. Sandra bland committed suicide and Trayvon martin was justifiably killed in a self defense situation involving a citizen”
Posted on 2/8/26 at 10:26 am to 4cubbies
See if you can find evidence of contemporaneous reporting of same, correspondence by delegates to their respective state, any rough drafts of the constitution. George Washington who presided over it has not a single mention of it in his personal journal. What was the legal remit of the delegates? I bet you do not know.
Posted on 2/8/26 at 10:28 am to White Tiger
So what is it really?
Posted on 2/8/26 at 10:29 am to 4cubbies
There should be a prank show for anyone who supports this or the removal of the death penalty etc.
On the show the target is picked up in the streets, blindfolded, and thrown into a van.
The blind fold comes off and they are find themselves held hostage while forced to watch recreations of crimes people have committed with no knowledge of it being fake.
At the end once they have experienced the crime while thinking it was real..they are asked if their opinions on the death penalty or forced prisoner labor has changed.
On the show the target is picked up in the streets, blindfolded, and thrown into a van.
The blind fold comes off and they are find themselves held hostage while forced to watch recreations of crimes people have committed with no knowledge of it being fake.
At the end once they have experienced the crime while thinking it was real..they are asked if their opinions on the death penalty or forced prisoner labor has changed.
Posted on 2/8/26 at 10:34 am to 4cubbies
What is the constitution? It is an intentionally vague document that can mean anything which means that it means nothing. Compare it to the Atricles of Confederation which is a far superior legal document.
Posted on 2/8/26 at 10:40 am to 4cubbies
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That’s an awful lot of trust you place in the State. There are hundreds of people there who were convicted by non-unanimous juries.
Well I worked in Classification at LSP for 4 years. I saw the rap sheets of probably half the inmates there. I would bet than less than 5% of inmates were first time offenders.
I will say that having programs for the inmates helps keep violence down. You can’t keep dudes locked up 24/7. Give them a way to make some sort of life in the prison. I have no issues with farm lines. Roofers, brick layers etc work in extreme heat. You get sentenced to hard labor then do your time. The inmates can’t earn get out of the field and get a job in a kitchen, tier orderly etc if the aren’t a shithead. The field line is also a form of deterence to keep inmates in line. If I have a better job and frick to back to the field line I go.
Posted on 2/8/26 at 10:48 am to lsufan1971
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Roofers, brick layers etc work in extreme heat.
They are paid market rates to do this work and presumably can access clean water and take breaks at their discretion.
Posted on 2/8/26 at 10:50 am to White Tiger
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Compare it to the Atricles of Confederation which is a far superior legal document.
The only AOC I cheer for.
Posted on 2/8/26 at 10:51 am to 4cubbies
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They are paid market rates to do this work and presumably can access clean water and take breaks at their discretion.
Therein lies the difference of being a free citizen or a convict.
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