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re: Andrew Brown Jr. shooting: Elizabeth City, NC declares state of emergency- bodycam release

Posted on 4/27/21 at 6:39 am to
Posted by TeamLSU
Member since Feb 2009
3730 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 6:39 am to
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don't know NC policy - state laws vary and local PD's have their own policies about this shite. I wouldn't read much into it yet. However, if they don't release the video pretty soon, it will look suspicious.



I totally agree, and well said. The police department has had the video for over 140 HOURS. Yet hasn't released it yet and only let the family and lawyers view 20 SECONDS of the video. If that's not suspicious I don't know what is.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
39719 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 7:25 am to
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I totally agree, and well said. The police department has had the video for over 140 HOURS. Yet hasn't released it yet and only let the family and lawyers view 20 SECONDS of the video. If that's not suspicious I don't know what is.



Not releasing a video in a timely manner only amplifies suspicion of nefarious action by those who withhold it. In today's 'Systematic Racism' world, if White cops shoot a Black person - wherein 'justification' becomes a subjective perception - there is nothing to be gained but much to lose by postponing release. Sooner or later they'll learn this.

IMO, given that the 'Systematic Racism' narrative is carrying the day, then most ALL White on Black lethal force scenarios will be viewed/and trumpeted by the MSM as 'unjustified'. I.e., a moral/legal outrage worthy of 'protest'. Such scenarios can only be addressed by "fundamental change" to the 'unjust' System (Capitalist) which creates the desperation of the oppressed. It's Marxism 101.

Black areas are going to be untouchable; to their own demise. If or when this moves into stable/civil White areas...the SHTF, as Vigilantism will prevail. In fact, it is a form of 'vigilantism' (Urban Gangs) that rules the neighborhoods now; so it will be no reach to expect that as such moves to stable areas, that becomes the logical progression.

This ship has sailed. There are no Laws to fix this; on the 'law' of Mother Nature. What else is new.

Posted by MeatCleaverWeaver
Member since Oct 2013
22175 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 7:29 am to
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Black areas are going to be untouchable; to their own demise. If or when this moves into stable/civil White areas...the SHTF, as Vigilantism will prevail.


I would add, if you don’t know who the DA is where you are moving, research that. It matters immensely, especially if you ever have to use force to defend your home and/or family.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
39719 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 7:42 am to
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I would add, if you don’t know who the DA is where you are moving, research that. It matters immensely, especially if you ever have to use force to defend your home and/or family.



A valid and essential point, MC; given today's dynamic. But once things reach that level of Vigilantism...any DA who prosecutes an honest individual who kills in protecting their life and property...will themselves become a legit target, as they CHOOSE to become enablers/accomplices to immoral aggression. This goes for Sheriffs, Police, etc. That's what you see below the Border, and that is what will organically occur here; only difference being that here...by Law (Constitution/God-given Right) honest folk own the guns and not gangs and cartels. That is pivotal.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56554 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 8:00 am to
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According to ALL that saw the video, at NO TIME, did he back his car up.


yep, just like the police videos that...

And at no time did Floyd say he couldn't breathe in the back seat of the Police vehicle.

"recreational use" said AMS and others...

but Floyd was hospitalized twice for OD march 2020 using the same irregular sized drugs...

I don't believe any of the black attorneys, especially Ben Crump

he and his mob are looking for pay day

Thugs they represent can stay on the black side of town and fight for their perverted version of reparations.

I know that's unpopular hear, but I am at that point

I don't want to live around black thugs with warrants and running away from cops...while 7500 blacks kill other blacks every year like clock work.

I don't want to hear the police are the issue... just not hearing it
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 9:35 am to
One less criminal = A good thing

Posted by tilco
Spanish Fort, AL
Member since Nov 2013
14492 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 9:40 am to
Is there a video of this yet?
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49547 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 9:46 am to
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there is nothing to be gained but much to lose by postponing release. Sooner or later they'll learn this.


I share your concerns - but I have heard (not personally researched) this it is NC state law that prevents its being released in a timely fashion - something to the effect that only family members can be allowed to see a video involved a 'loved ones' death - and that other court matters have to be resolved to release it to the public.

don't know how valid my above description is (repeat - haven't researched it) but it is the ONLY explanation for why they are setting themselves up for the mob reaction to its eventual release.

The mob - and by inference, the media and DEM cabal - will not be swayed by ANY legal argument. If they mention the law at all they will just present it as another 'Jim Crow" example of the "noble black man being gunned down by racist white executioners."

My only hope is that the video contains inescapable proof of a "good shoot" and I am not at all confident that it is not the reverse. It will be doubly bad considering the delay of release, regardless of reason for delay
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49547 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 9:54 am to
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Also, the officers involved, all their faces were redacted from the video. Now, when the frick do you redacted body cam video of officers involved? Maybe, just maybe when you're covering shite up.


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Maybe, just maybe when you're
= actually trying to protect officers and their families from antifa and BLM mobs from having their houses burned down and members harassed, assaulted, murdered in their 'righteous anger at being systemically aggrieved"

You fukcing retards make me want to puke. When you start calling for the black gang members in urban hell-holes to be 'doxxed' and dragged out to be beaten and killed then I will perhaps listen to your diatribes against 'racist cops.'

Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49547 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 10:19 am to
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clueless police department but we all know, we gonna hear about how horrible a person Andrew Brown was, and so forth and so on. Yet you won't hear shite about how all those officers fired from the back of the car and killed Andrew Brown.


damn man - you are swimming hard for the bottom of the barrel here. You think there is a huge stash of cash or something in that sewer??

Just the notion that this Crump atty is on the case is enough 'proof' to me that Brown WAS a piece of shite and humanity is better off by his elimination from the gene pool and welfare line. <== If that presumption turns out to be incorrect, I will personally come back to this post and copy it to the front page with a full apology to you and anyone who cares for you.

EVERY FUKCING ONE of these 'black victims of police racism' has been a complete piece of shite and humanity has been better off without them (however most of their 'caring families' have become rich from their 'loved ones' demise at the hands of 'racist cops' and billions of $$$-worth of property have been destroyed and dozens of totally innocent people have been sacrificed on this alter of 'black grievance' and I am tired of the shills who still push this debunked narrative.

You are lying to yourself - period. These thugs should have been raised better by their parents (who too often are just as rotten as the little brats they let loose on the world) - they should have been corrected in school ( which too often has been nothing more than incubation centers for more irrational hatred and where 'street skills' are honed for their latter predation in the public) - they should have been apprehended and rehabilitated by the law enforcement officials in their neighborhoods (which are too often corrupted by the DEMOCRAT idiots who run their cities and encourage the filth),
But, alas, they are allowed, encouraged, enticed, to act like animal savages until one of them crosses the line to the point that some LEO has to take lethal action to protect his OWN life or that of some other innocent victim of the thug.

And NOW the dead thug gets sanctified, they make a hero of him (all to get more $$$ for the 'loving family' and their evil attornies and the corrupt political leaders of their hell holes)

At this point I am all for fencing these areas off and letting then kill themselves. Try to rescue any decent people trapped in these DEM plantations and relocate THEM to a safe area - but just let the filth inside writhe in their own excrement.

Until some form of civilized behavior becomes the norm in those areas, they should be ignored - enter at your own risk. Screw em all - we have wasted TRILLIONS of $$$$ and THOUSANDs of innocent lives and GENERATIONs of people trying to smooth the road between them and a productive life. And they burn every bridge, rob every rescuer, destroy any edifice, reject any attempt to help them out of their situations. I am not in favor of giving them another cent of money, another second of attention, another single benefit of the doubt, another large for aggression, UNTIL they send out some sort of "peace party" who is willing to accept their own responsibility for their predicament, and some sort of workable plan for cooperative effort to solve the real problems.

The first step in this is to FIRE EVERY DEMOCRAT OFFICIAL who has been involved in ANY way for the past 50 years.
Posted by BigDawg0420
Hamsterdam
Member since Apr 2010
7503 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 10:27 am to
Brown's son came on during the press conference and started talking about violence is not the answer. He said black people gotta stop killing other black people too and you could tell the race-baiting lawyers didn't like that line. They gave him a little nudge and instantly the son blurted out, "my dad was executed".
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 10:32 am to
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"recreational use" said AMS and others...



still melting over being so wrong in that other thread? I understand though, Id be a bit upset if I had fallen so hard for the fatal OD myth.

LINK
quote:

Mean level of blood fentanyl amongst all reported deaths was 0.024 µg/mL.

Deaths reported due to mixed drug toxicity had the highest mean fentanyl concentration at 0.034 µg/mL

fentanyl intoxication and fentanyl plus ethanol toxicity with 0.017µg/mL


GF's 11 nanograms/ml converts to .011 micrograms/ml which is significantly lower than any of those mean concentrations, .024, .034, and .017 micrograms/ml.



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I don't want to hear the police are the issue... just not hearing it



yea its obvious you are unwilling to consider facts, its probably required in order to defend your hero being a convicted murderer.
This post was edited on 4/27/21 at 10:40 am
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
28161 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 10:43 am to
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yea its obvious you are unwilling to consider facts, its probably required in order to defend your hero being a convicted murderer.


So odd to be a showboat for a drug addicted criminal. Go back to the protest with your "hands up, don't shoot, we're with you" poster.
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 10:46 am to
Did they release the video yet or are they still stalling?
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64370 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 10:48 am to
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Did they release the video yet or are they still stalling?


The police have no control over the release. They have to submit a court order and get approval from a judge.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
167597 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 10:53 am to
They are following NC laws. Ya'll commenting are spot-on. Also, they are protecting the sheriffs from getting burnt down in their homes.

When BLM antifa activated they called the state of emergency. Only then did the lawyers key it down and said call your reps in DC-- and gave out reps numbers.

So the declaration of emergency and the blurring of the officers faces in the video-- are actually smart and not an admission of guilt.

We all know any investigation---- and if this goes to court---- will be decided by Biden and his media and thugs.

So they may as well protect the sheriffs now. If the sheriffs were truly in the wrong I will be the first to say they need punished.

But until then innocent until proven guilty prevails. Anyone remember that? If this was a white trash meth dealer with a book as a rap sheet; we wouldn't even be talking about this. And because he tried to run over the Sheriff's, his car and tires would still have been riddled with bullets.
This post was edited on 4/27/21 at 11:00 am
Posted by mightyMick
Member since Aug 2018
3067 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 11:09 am to
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If this was a white trash meth dealer with a book as a rap sheet; we wouldn't even be talking about this.


Right, because the media is racist and what the racists use for "info".
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
167597 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 11:10 am to
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The police have no control over the release. They have to submit a court order and get approval from a judge.
This, as well as the media are headlining this news deceptively.

The headline is 'Andrew Brown Jr. was shot in the back.'--- making it the 7th paragraph that his car was shot up by many officers as he tried to run anyone over leaving the scene.

His vehicle was shot up as he tried to run them over leaving.

No law enforcement is going to trust a meth head and had every right to shoot up his tires and vehicle.

Biden will make a statement and it will go on fire. We know how this works.

They won't stop until every cop & sheriff quits.
This post was edited on 4/27/21 at 11:14 am
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
167597 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 11:20 am to
Wow, now they are framing the non release of the full bodycam's videos unredacted. (So CBS & CNN can publish the address's of the sheriff's to be cancelled and burnt in their homes) as guilt.

They are saying Andrew Brown was just trying to escape to save his life...

Wow.

LINK

So, if you are black and break most every law and are dealing crack & meth, have a long rap sheet. You are allowed to escape just because you are black? Cops are not allowed to basically arrest you because you are black?
This post was edited on 4/27/21 at 11:22 am
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 11:39 am to
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His vehicle was shot up as he tried to run them over leaving


Did you see the video?
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