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re: Analytics Firm Reports Falling US Murder Rate

Posted on 12/18/23 at 7:25 pm to
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
22410 posts
Posted on 12/18/23 at 7:25 pm to
I hear the Israelis wish they had a few on October 7, 2023.

Posted by LakeCharles
USA
Member since Oct 2016
5416 posts
Posted on 12/18/23 at 7:30 pm to
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Probably has nothing to do with the record numbers of guns purchased by Americans these past few years.

That is probably true. Why go to the trouble of jacking someone up for money when all you need to do is go to the store and walk out with whatever you want, plus you get warranty coverage too.


Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 12/18/23 at 7:35 pm to
The data shows as gun sales increased, the murder rate spiked. Therefore your point of more guns, less murder is contradicted by the data.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
22410 posts
Posted on 12/18/23 at 7:40 pm to
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The data shows as gun sales increased, the murder rate plummetted. Therefore your point of more guns, less murder is true by the data.


FIFY
Posted by beaux duke
Member since Oct 2023
4756 posts
Posted on 12/18/23 at 7:44 pm to
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Where is 2023 in your graphs?


should be out sometime after, you know, 2023 is over
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 12/18/23 at 7:48 pm to
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quote:The data shows as gun sales increased, the murder rate plummetted. Therefore your point of more guns, less murder is true by the data. FIFY


Takes a special person to make statements contrary to data.
Posted by Swamp Angel
West Georgia Chicken Farm Territory
Member since Jul 2004
10123 posts
Posted on 12/18/23 at 7:52 pm to
It's like inflation. It's not falling, but it's not rising as fast as it was.
Posted by PuntBamaPunt
Member since Nov 2010
10070 posts
Posted on 12/18/23 at 7:56 pm to
That's disappointing. African Americans are killing each other less and now they can't abort their babies? This country is fricked
This post was edited on 12/18/23 at 7:57 pm
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13149 posts
Posted on 12/18/23 at 8:01 pm to
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Likely not.


I agree.

But record gun ownership didn't stop it from continuing to drop, did it?
This post was edited on 12/18/23 at 8:04 pm
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
8370 posts
Posted on 12/18/23 at 8:11 pm to
Some of you are literally too stupid to keep posting. Now for some relevant news:

LINK

quote:

30 U.S. Cities with the Highest Murders in 2023


NOw look and tell me correlation vs causation

Top 5

5. Baltimore, Maryland
4. Dallas, Texas
3. Phoenix, Arizona
2. Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
#1 ... with a bullet
1. Chicago, Illinois

This article had Chicago with 166 homicides. Another article had 697 in 2022

Does anyone believe only 166 this year with 10 a weekend or so being reported ... hmmm



Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103794 posts
Posted on 12/18/23 at 8:14 pm to
If certain cities are any indication, they are certainly fudging those numbers.

BRPD was refusing to get out of the car to investigate shots fired at one point while EBRSO was able to find the person hit by the bullet having fled across the parish.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 12/18/23 at 8:14 pm to
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I agree. But record gun ownership didn't stop it from continuing to drop, did it?


You can’t use gun sales to correlate to increases or decreases, or I should say you cannot causally link.
This post was edited on 12/18/23 at 8:16 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128664 posts
Posted on 12/18/23 at 10:12 pm to
It had to come down. It was so high that 2021-2022 was a record for many cities.

St. Louis city had 366 homicides in 2022. 386 in 2021. The 262 in 2020 was the highest in 60 years.

So, in 2023, it’s back to just the highest rates in 60 years - 310 through today.

But IT’s FALLEN 16% year over year!!!!! Let’s CELEBRATE!!
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173381 posts
Posted on 12/18/23 at 10:17 pm to
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Takes a special person to make statements contrary to data

Think about how stupid you would have to be to try to make the point that up is making and even bring up Japan at all. They basically have no guns in comparison to us
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 7:01 am to
The stats from a few years ago are likely skewed as they were calling murders "death by Covid">...
Posted by Ribbed
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2023
2745 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 7:03 am to
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Probably has nothing to do with the record numbers of guns purchased by Americans these past few years.

Probably more likely because Dems are going with a different election strategy and backtrackih on their defund the police rhetoric.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44107 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 7:08 am to
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This article had Chicago with 166 homicides.


If you change the way the way that you count them, sure.
Posted by DotBling
Member since Oct 2019
3166 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 7:09 am to
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Found the retard


You looked in the mirror?
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
46738 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 7:11 am to
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I’d rather we see a drop in crime because we’ve become better people and society. Something like Japan where tradition and respect still play a role. Not because a criminal is worried they might get shot while committing a crime as you’re suggesting. That just means that people are still a-holes and don’t value your humanity.
Total depravity still exists.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 7:24 am to
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Think about how stupid you would have to be to try to make the point that up is making and even bring up Japan at all.


Sort of like the special kind of stupid it takes to ignore the fact that 6, 7, 8 dollar per gallon gas exists when presented hard evidence I would imagine.
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