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re: An independent nation has THE RIGHT to sovereignty, AND to have their arse kicked
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:16 am to BayouBlitz
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:16 am to BayouBlitz
quote:a strong vestige of terminal virtue signaling in this one...
Okay Vladimir. Keep bombing citizens.
[smart arse inane comments] okay, how is my ESG score today...
idiot
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Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:16 am to Zach
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For 1,000s of years countries that didn't 'start no shat' got clobbered anyway.
Will always be that way. The only “rights” anyone has are those they can personally protect with the use of force. Any other “right” can be taken from you by someone stronger or more able to project the needed force.
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:17 am to JJJimmyJimJames
frick you Vladimir. Keep bombing civilians.
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:18 am to trinidadtiger
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might does make right.
Mass kicks arse
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:19 am to Bayoutigre
Yeah and I’m sure all those people fleeing into Poland and other countries are just misunderstanding Russia. SMH!!!
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:20 am to trinidadtiger
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:21 am to BayouBlitz
quote:virtue signal more
frick you Vladimir. Keep bombing civilians.
moron
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:25 am to Adam Banks
People can’t think anymore. Putin was not provoked into this war, Putin lusted for this war. OP is correct that America should tread more lightly in the region so as not to poke the bear, but OP should acknowledge that Ukraine is not a member of NATO nor was there serious conversations that they would be. Ukraine is the buffer. OP should also acknowledge that Putin has always been and always will be a sociopath and a murderer and that Russia has been poking the US and The West in return for decades. He has carried out assassinations on NATO soil for instance, done multiple black ops, cyber attacks, etc. As for US military involvement, of course not, we need to back the frick off. Deescalation from NATO , illegal Russian withdrawal from Ukrainian soil, and peace should be the goal of our foreign policy. We should give Mr Putin his respect and we should continue to give assurances that there will be no further NATO expansion .
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:41 am to trinidadtiger
Putin has gone from NATO to Nazis and drug addicts, to now full demilitarization if Ukraine.
I'm not totally sure he even knows what the objective is anymore.
I'm not totally sure he even knows what the objective is anymore.
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:43 am to trinidadtiger
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Can we please get off the sovereign country bullshite.
What a big brain argument.
Posted on 3/5/22 at 11:06 am to trinidadtiger
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Cuban is a sovereign country, so you are okay with supersonic nukes there correct?
There are no nukes in Ukraine, dumbass.
Posted on 3/5/22 at 11:15 am to BayouBlitz
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frick you Vladimir. Keep bombing civilians.
Vladimir Biden?
Posted on 3/5/22 at 11:20 am to trinidadtiger
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What kind of suburban bubble do you people live in. Unfortunately might does make right.
"The Third World War shall start soon, My child, and claim many lives. Many countries shall disappear from the surface of your earth. Wars are a punishment for man's sins, My child.” – Our Lady, April 5, 1975
Please stop slaughtering innocent babies through abortion.
Pray for peace, and practice peace.
Posted on 3/5/22 at 11:25 am to Evolved Simian
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There are no nukes in Ukraine, dumbass.
The discussion was around sovereign countries, not whether had nukes are not. Answer the question, a sovereign country can do as they wish within their borders corrrect? |If so you should have no problem with hypersonic nukes in Cuba.
Posted on 3/5/22 at 11:32 am to Bobby OG Johnson
that meme is perfect.
Posted on 3/5/22 at 12:21 pm to trinidadtiger
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Unfortunately might does make right.
It’s the law of the jungle. When everything is reduced to nothing the strong will always rule,
Posted on 3/5/22 at 12:23 pm to trinidadtiger
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Can we please get off the sovereign country bullshite.... take your white suburban arse with your 300 dollar nikes to the 9th Ward and tell the residents about your sovereign rights...
You started off making a couple of decent points -- then meandered into the above "bullsh*t" non-context virtue-signaling territory.
DOWN-VOTE.
Posted on 3/5/22 at 12:30 pm to Lsupimp
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Ukraine is not a member of NATO nor was there serious conversations that they would be
Rueters (December): Biden assures Zelenskiy that NATO membership in Ukraine's hands, Kyiv says
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U.S. President Joe Biden assured Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy that Kyiv's bid to join the NATO military alliance was in its own hands, Zelenskiy's chief of staff said after the two leaders spoke on Thursday.
Now, Zelenskiy may very well have purposely gotten out over his skis in saying this, but I can't find anywhere that Biden walked it back.
When Putin says "Don't do this", and you don't dispute that Ukraine was told they could, this is what happens.
May have happened anyway, but Finland survived the Cold War by knowing they could not provoke the Soviets.
Posted on 3/5/22 at 12:34 pm to Bobby OG Johnson
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quote:
Gray Connolly
@GrayConnolly
The current CIA Director, William Burns [left], and a former CIA Director (and US Defense secretary), Robert Gates [right], both warned years ago, in the clearest terms, of the inevitable Russian response to any attempt to expand NATO to include Ukraine.
Are these two Putinists?
There ya go. Nice post and meme.
None other than US Intel chief warned that NATO expansion (attempt to make Ukraine THEIR de facto Vassal state from under Russia's nose) would only incite Putin, while infringing on what is clearly Russia's "sphere of influence".
Why can't people understand the simple geo-political common sense here?
Posted on 3/5/22 at 12:42 pm to Ag Zwin
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When Putin says "Don't do this", and you don't dispute that Ukraine was told they could, this is what happens.
May have happened anyway, but Finland survived the Cold War by knowing they could not provoke the Soviets.
There is some meat on this bone.
Finland didn't make a lotta noise while in the Soviet shadow -- while Sweden wisely played the "neutrality" card.
There used to be an expressed geopolitical understanding -- let's call it "courtesy & honor" among the world's Imperial "thieves"; To avoid this kind of provocation, The US would stay out of Russia's "sphere of influence" and Russia would stay out of the Western Hemisphere. (see Cuba missile crisis).
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