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re: American Doctor describes his two 2024 visits to Gaza

Posted on 1/5/25 at 6:47 pm to
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 1/5/25 at 6:47 pm to
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And do you think he's the only one that is pissed off for America putting Israel first?


Why are you so certain Israel has anything to do with his motivation?
Posted by Drizzt
Cimmeria
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 1/5/25 at 6:51 pm to
I’m fine with not giving Israel money. They have their own money and we are in debt. I’m just not going to say the Israelis are wrong for destroying terrorists who rape and murder women and children.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
23219 posts
Posted on 1/5/25 at 7:21 pm to
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Let's say you're right.


He is.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 1/5/25 at 7:36 pm to
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NC_Tigah


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But not for the USSR. There was but one kidnapping of USSR reps by Islamists in exchange for demands. The Soviets abided none of the demands. Instead they kidnapped family members of the terrorists with the premise, release ours, and we'll release yours. The Islamists were slow to react, so the Soviets sent them a box containing their leader's father's severed testicles, and an accompanying audio-visual. All Soviet hostages were released post-haste. None were ever again taken.


The brainwashed panzy boys saying we all should get along, Israel is committing genocide and the Palestinians are all innocent fail to understand certain realities. Muslims respect power. They don’t respect polite company. They see it as a weakness. Secondly Muslims believe it is their religious mandate to lie if it furthers their theological desires. You can never really trust one because of this fact. Lastly they don’t realize that if they were in a Muslim country and they refused to submit to their pedophile God they see it as their right to kill you. It is plain and simple, Fundamentalist Muslims are not compatible with a modern democratic nation.
This post was edited on 1/5/25 at 7:45 pm
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
7330 posts
Posted on 1/5/25 at 7:55 pm to
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I’m fine with not giving Israel money. They have their own money and we are in debt. I’m just not going to say the Israelis are wrong for destroying terrorists who rape and murder women and children.


You're absolutely right. Much higher per capita income, and somehow free healthcare for everyone, but we're supplying all of their defense (and arguably their offense).
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 1/5/25 at 7:57 pm to
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Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
7330 posts
Posted on 1/5/25 at 8:01 pm to
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I don't know any of them, but I do know that the Muslim father of the Muslim Bama student killed said it was a" tragic accident" that took his life. He's no different than any other Islamist.

I know you guys hate Israel, but somebody has to keep your terrorist friends over there in line. Israel wants border security, and as a sovereign nation, it's up to them how to punish their invaders.


What guys hate Israel? Why should I hate Israel?

Do you love Israel? And why, if you do?

Do you think that they are "keeping your terrorist friends over there in line?"

If they're so sovereign, do they need US taxpayers paying for their defense system?

Then again, are we sovereign if we have to pay Israel annual dues? Is it Israel first, or America first?

If it's up to them to punish their invaders, why do they need our taxpayer dollars?
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
7330 posts
Posted on 1/5/25 at 8:09 pm to
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Why are you so certain Israel has anything to do with his motivation?


Good question. I'm not certain, but I'm open to your comments to my vague analysis.

The US has been intervening in the Middle East since about 1950 or so. We installed a government in Iran.

Virtually every move that we have made over there since has (arguably) been simping for Israel. And every one of those moves has physically, emotionally and/or economically offended someone else in that region. (Them: wtf is the US doing over here?)

All the way up until this absolute actual moment in time, we've been doing that. So to my simple mind, anyone with any remote connection to that region, either a history of, memory of, or a family member killed via our ME policy is pissed at the US.

And occasionally will be reminded of it daily enough, to take a bit of action.

It sucks for them and us. So, it seems worth taking the time to ask ourselves, "What are we doing over there?"
Posted by LeeeroyJenkins
Member since Aug 2024
852 posts
Posted on 1/5/25 at 8:14 pm to
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Absolutely annihilate them and their loved ones if need be


This is NOT the way. Lord have mercy on you brother.
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
7330 posts
Posted on 1/5/25 at 8:16 pm to
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I like their oil. And their rems.


Do we need their oil?

Sorry, I don't know what rems are.

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What affection do you have for a religion stuck in the Middle Ages that is incompatible with modernity until it goes through a successful enlightenment where the masses agree and support that enlightenment rather than continuing to live like it is the 1200s?


I'm ignorant to the theory of enlightenment. But I have no affection, other than human life.

I'm okay with letting the supreme state of Israel bloodletting and conquering anyone they want, on their own.

Why do they need, beg, blackmail, and buy US taxpayer dollars to accomplish their mission?

Why does every congressman have an AIPAC rep assigned to them monitoring their every word and vote?
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71203 posts
Posted on 1/5/25 at 8:19 pm to
It's a tragedy. The terrorists should have surrended like 70(0(0)) years ago. It's absurd at this point.
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
7330 posts
Posted on 1/5/25 at 8:20 pm to
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You go on an absolute reply rampage this morning, and I don’t earn a single one?

Wow

Sad!


You are so damn right. You have my sincerest apologies.

You are so much more knowledgeable, well-spoken and energetic than me.

I thank you so much for your work in helping provide our dear citizens with the truth that is not readily apparent in our corporate and MIC/AIPAC media and government.

Truly the work of a patriot.

Thank you!
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
7330 posts
Posted on 1/5/25 at 8:32 pm to
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Loan them all they need.



Curious as to these loans. Have a link? I couldn't find anything.

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No US servicemen in this fight that I have seen



US Soldier dead

3 soldier dead

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Hajis don't need an excuse, it is their SOP


Gotcha. Just a coincidence.
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
7330 posts
Posted on 1/5/25 at 8:35 pm to
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It's a tragedy. The terrorists should have surrended like 70(0(0)) years ago. It's absurd at this point.


Your vague understanding of either, 70, or 700, or 7000 years ago leads me to believe that you don't have a clue.

But I'm probably wrong. What were these terrorist doing, let's say 70 years ago?

Or 700, or 7000?
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
7330 posts
Posted on 1/5/25 at 8:58 pm to
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I know, which is why I said I’m getting tired of even trying to make the argument.


Thank you for making such clearly thought out and clearly spoken arguments.

For many here, this is the only way they will hear these words.
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
7330 posts
Posted on 1/5/25 at 8:59 pm to
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The Israelis have always targeted civilians, including children

They’re very different from us



hmm, won't hear those words on foxnews.

heck even cnn, nbc or cbs.

makes me wonder what's going on.
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
7330 posts
Posted on 1/5/25 at 9:04 pm to
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Again, nothing in our US strategic interests to pump billions into the MIC to support a country - Israel - that has spied against us, stolen our defense secrets and embroiled us in endless wars on their behalf.



Yes, but they support our politicians!

And give each of them an AIPAC rep to consult for every soundbite and every vote.

Luv muh Israel, even Pastor Bob says we're good sending billions to them!
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
7330 posts
Posted on 1/5/25 at 9:15 pm to
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Should Israel itself not bear some responsibility for feeding the monster that eventually attacked them? And certainly not punish the civilians over their own blunder?


It's arguable if it was even a blunder.

Why were most of the IDF moved to northern Israel?

Why was the fence around Gaza not guarded as it usually was?

The one promise that Bibi made to his people was that they were SAFE. Obviously, he lied.

-OR-

Was he in on Oct 7?

Obviously, he has gained more than he could have imagined out of Oct 7.
He has avoided his corruption trial, and is currently the PM, as opposed to being in prison.

And he has Perhaps gained Israel land, albeit surrendering Israel's reputation, perhaps forever.

Of course, this investigation will probably never be resolved in my lifetime. And surely, even if it is, few folks on this side of earth will care or understand what happened.
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
7330 posts
Posted on 1/5/25 at 9:29 pm to
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Israel is eradicating the Christians.

Can you provide proof of this to us? Maybe a link or anything. Israel’s greatest ally’s are evangelical Christians from US and Israel knows this. Some of our Churches in my area go over there every 3-5 years and none have been kidnapped taken hostage or the women raped multiple times or beheaded or children of Christians killed. Meanwhile I will wait on your proof


I'd guess he's speaking to what's going on in Syria. I think that's way too complicated to get into in this thread, but if you have thoughts on Israel's role in Syria, feel free to start the conversation.

It has only recently occurred to me, so I suspect it's never occurred to you.
"Why is Israel so welcoming to US Christians?"

Perhaps: They love our taxpayer dollars supporting their defense and offense military systems.

They believe that if they are nice enough to Christian pastors, they will believe that they are the nation of Abraham that is spoken of in the Old Testament.

They believe that American Christians are gullible enough to believe what they can convince their pastors of, and therefore support them, no matter how many women and children are killed.

I know it's crazy to believe such heinous things. But the Bible teaches of such imposters. Doesn't it?
Posted by Vegas Eddie
The Quad
Member since Dec 2013
6067 posts
Posted on 1/5/25 at 9:41 pm to
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The Israelis are much worse than the Palestinians, they’re a moral horror


Hopefully they push every Gaza resident into the sea
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