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re: American Christianity Is on a Path Toward Being a Tool of Theocratic Authoritarianism

Posted on 10/7/22 at 8:07 am to
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/7/22 at 8:07 am to
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Anything can be weaponized for evil. I don't understand your point.

Point is that recognizing that something can be used as a tool for evil isn't necessarily an attack on that thing

Everyone here is acting like this is an attack on Christianity and that's not necessarily the case
Posted by BengalOnTheBay
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 10/7/22 at 8:08 am to
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Ever heard of the Spanish inquisition? We have real world evidence that Christianity can be used as a tool for evil.


I just want to point out, as I always have to when the Spanish Inquisition is pointed out as some kind of horrible evil manifestation of Catholicism/Christianity, that it was pretty mild by historical standards. Somewhere between 3,000 and 4,000 people were killed over a 300+ year period and about 80,000 Jews were forcibly converted to Christianity or expelled.

Keep in mind the backdrop of the Inquisition, which was over 500 years of Muslims trying, and very nearly succeeding, in wiping out Portugal and Spain as countries and eliminating their culture/ethnic identity.

So, in the future, you should probably find a different example for evil done in the name of Christianity, just FYI.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 8:08 am to
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Too recent. Find something older.


Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
21342 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 8:09 am to
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My point is that governments in collusion with religion can cause major fricking problems


Progressive Democratic government is absolutely in collusion with cultural Marxism (a religion) currently.

Secondly, it’s false to think that a system of government is not based on a system of beliefs.

The old paradigm of keeping “religion” (small r) out of government is actually impossible and people are starting to figure it out. The marxists have exploited the liberal mind set.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/7/22 at 8:11 am to
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Everyone here is acting like this is an attack on Christianity and that's not necessarily the case


Your statement isn’t an attack. The article is.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 10/7/22 at 8:12 am to
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the Spanish Inquisition is pointed out as some kind of horrible evil manifestation of Catholicism/Christianity, that it was pretty mild by historical standards.


Yeah, I didn't want to hijack the thread, but it wasn't really The Pit and the Pendulum event that most people think it was.
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
21342 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 8:12 am to
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Everyone here is acting like this is an attack on Christianity and that's not necessarily the case


You’re correct. It’s not necessarily the case.

But it IS THE ACTUAL CASE. And it’s an attack based on the lie that opposing cultural Marxism is evil.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 8:14 am to
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Everyone here is acting like this is an attack on Christianity and that's not necessarily the case


Simple yes or no question: Do you believe there is an ongoing attack on Christianity by the Left and the Media?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/7/22 at 8:16 am to
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Simple yes or no question: Do you believe there is an ongoing attack on Christianity by the Left and the Media?


No. I think there is a rejection of some Christian values from the LGBT crowd. But other than that...not really. If you think that Christians are being persecuted then you don't know what persecution is.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 10/7/22 at 8:19 am to
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If you think that Christians are being persecuted then you don't know what persecution is.


Of course they are. You're just using a very narrow definition of persecution. The entire "Christian Nationalist" push itself is an astroturfed politically motivated persecution of Christianity.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 8:19 am to
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then you don't know what persecution is.


I think it is you who doesn't know what persecution is.

Persecution isn't always burning down thatch-roofed cottages and crucifying the locals.

I hate to be mean, but I think only an idiot can look around and think that there isn't an ongoing, co-ordinated attack against Christians in America.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
38635 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 8:20 am to
I'd like to know which one of the Bill of Rights 'she' disagrees with.
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
12423 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 8:20 am to
Better than Marxist Authoritarianism.
Posted by BengalOnTheBay
Member since Aug 2022
3855 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 8:21 am to
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If you think that Christians are being persecuted then you don't know what persecution is.


I know we're discussing the US, but from a larger perspective, there are somewhere around 25 countries where it's outright illegal to be a Christian. The same cannot be said for any other major world religion.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 8:21 am to
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But other than that...not really.


I mean, honestly this sort of take would make a person doubt your ability to make sound judgements in any area of life.

It's obvious that it's happening.

My question was simply giving you a chance to show that you are a person of integrity and state the obvious truth.

You failed the test.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 10/7/22 at 8:28 am to
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170594 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 8:30 am to
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You failed the test.

frick you and your stupid test

I don't give a frick what you think and neither does anyone else
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 8:31 am to
Calm down, groomer.

Also, thanks for calling me to let me know that you don't care....
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
17022 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 8:35 am to
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Do you think that Christianity can't be weaponized for evil?


Not by anyone who actually understands what it means to be a Christian.

But we all know the dangers of socialism/communism. For some reason, the left doesn’t like to acknowledge it and instead tries to portray the Christian Right as being capable of what they themselves have done time and time again.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170594 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 8:37 am to
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Not by anyone who actually understands what it means to be a Christian.


It doesn't matter what it means to be a Christian as far as authoritarians are concerned

Again, this isn't an attack on Christianity. It's an acknowledgment that bad actors can use Christianity to impose authoritarianism on people.
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