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re: Alleged beating by Crawford Co Arkansas Deputies caught on video NSFW

Posted on 8/21/22 at 11:44 pm to
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
7167 posts
Posted on 8/21/22 at 11:44 pm to
I spent a lot of years restraining mental patients in college and a little while after. Had to deal with the cops a lot as a result. Short version is they are trained wrong. I could restrain a 400 lb dude by myself without leaving a mark on him other than the occasional carpet burn. Never had to strike anyone in what was probably a thousand restraints. Punching people is not the best use of your energy in that kind of fight. They really don't know what they are doing when it comes to getting somebody under control without injuring them. Didn't say without hurting. Pain is instructive. Used right it gets it over with faster and with less chance of injury to anyone involved.

With that many cops, and they actually knew what they were doing, you could put anyone alive into cuffs. Fast. But they're not trained to do it. That whole "Everything is a life ending encounter" bullshite has gone to the bone on these people.
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
38862 posts
Posted on 8/22/22 at 12:07 am to
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BUT THEY CAN IF THEY RESIST ARREST!




There's no rational defense for what those cops did. There were three dudes laying on that guy. He wasn't throwing punches or any of that shite. And one of those assholes repeatedly picked his head up and slammed it on the concrete.

That should be an attempted murder charge.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21128 posts
Posted on 8/22/22 at 12:22 am to
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Can you tell what he has in his hands ?

I believe he has the straws you're grasping for
Posted by Rebbedup
Member since Jun 2021
4386 posts
Posted on 8/22/22 at 12:38 am to
No worries. He is white. Doesn’t fit the democrat narrative therefore will not make the news anywhere. Democrats want all white men beaten to death.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
97016 posts
Posted on 8/22/22 at 4:40 am to
The bodycams will be very telling. Any early details about the alleged perp trying to grab the cops service weapon?
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
122871 posts
Posted on 8/22/22 at 5:55 am to
Why do you love government so much?
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
30763 posts
Posted on 8/22/22 at 6:19 am to
1. he is resisting
2. he looks white, so it will go away quickly
Posted by Zarkinletch416
Deep in the Heart of Texas
Member since Jan 2020
8689 posts
Posted on 8/22/22 at 7:03 am to
Yikes! That's gonna leave some nasty bruises.

This post was edited on 8/23/22 at 7:40 pm
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
19964 posts
Posted on 8/22/22 at 7:11 am to
That was uncalled for. Those cops are going to prison.
Posted by THog
Member since Dec 2021
2282 posts
Posted on 8/22/22 at 7:12 am to
Fact checkers already saying missing context
Posted by TideHater
Orange Beach AL
Member since May 2007
19868 posts
Posted on 8/22/22 at 7:20 am to
Why didn't the suspect invoke his white privileges?



Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16880 posts
Posted on 8/22/22 at 7:37 am to
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To summarize, you don't know jack shite about this, but you see three cops on a dude, and one of them throws a few good head shots, so instantly the cops are bad and should be in JAIL
I see three cops being the shite out of someone who doesn't appear capable of even defending himself much less presenting a threat to the cops. We obviously don't know all the details but you're coming in pretty hot against people who can watch the video and make reasonable assumptions even if you don't agree. And again, you have exactly ZERO more details than them
This post was edited on 8/22/22 at 7:39 am
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 8/22/22 at 7:41 am to
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Short version is they are trained wrong. I could restrain a 400 lb dude by myself without leaving a mark on him other than the occasional carpet burn.


This video notwithstanding, it's very easy to play Monday Morning Quarterback from the safety of a computer chair.

Posted by ArHog
Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2008
39485 posts
Posted on 8/22/22 at 7:48 am to
It's Crawford Co. Arkansas.
Lived there for 25 years and nothing surprises me.

I hope the frickers get fired for this shite.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16880 posts
Posted on 8/22/22 at 7:52 am to
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BUT THEY CAN IF THEY RESIST ARREST!
do you honestly believe smashing a person's head into concrete repeatedly is a reasonable response to "resisting arrest" (which could be just about anything a cop takes offense with)? You have 3 guys on top of the guy armed with tazers. What's the point of having that sort of non-lethal technology if your goto move is to smash the dudes head into concrete repeatedly?
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55573 posts
Posted on 8/22/22 at 7:54 am to
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Doesn’t matter what happened prior to the video starting.

bullshite! If that guy assaulted an officer - let’s say he sucker punched him in the mouth - then they should be forgiven for beating the shite out of him. Now, they better have some damn solid evidence that he assaulted them.
Posted by CoachDon
Louisville
Member since Sep 2014
12409 posts
Posted on 8/22/22 at 7:57 am to
No black. No outrage.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16880 posts
Posted on 8/22/22 at 7:59 am to
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bullshite! If that guy assaulted an officer - let’s say he sucker punched him in the mouth - then they should be forgiven for beating the shite out of him.
I disagree. This basically equates them to the perp who hypothetically assaults police. Shouldn't there be a discernable difference between the behavior of a violent criminal and leos sworn to uphold the law?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476983 posts
Posted on 8/22/22 at 8:00 am to
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When's the last time you attempted to apprehend a perp who was methed up, or on some other drug that can make a person 2-3 times their normal strength ?

I haven't. Tell me why physical attacks are necessary to restrain this suspect? I'm not saying using force to restrain him or possibly using that force to cause injuries secondary to restraint (like falling to the ground). I'm talking about physical strikes with the hands, knee, or slamming his head in the concrete.

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but you see three cops on a dude, and one of them throws a few good head shots, so instantly the cops are bad and should be in JAIL

Uh...yeah?

There is no reason for "a few good head shots" to EVER be routine or accepted.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 8/22/22 at 8:01 am to
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BUT THEY CAN IF THEY RESIST ARREST!
quote:

do you honestly believe smashing a person's head into concrete repeatedly is a reasonable response to "resisting arrest"?

It is Troy. Of course he does.
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