re: All this talk about 47 "shredding the constitution" yet no specific examples...

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Bukeli stated in the press conference he can not return the guy

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Fixed it for you.

And the fix really gives the game away. The idea that this is something outside of everyone’s control - that Bukele can’t do anything about it, that Trump can’t do anything about it, that it’s just a magic vortex of perpetual confinement with no possible recourse in existence - is just obvious nonsense. And you all know it is.

What happened is the administration fricked up, accidentally sending your garden variety illegal to one of the worst places in the world instead of just correctly deporting them. Knowing that it’s one of the worst places in the world, they understand that if they bring this person back, his story is going to skull frick the administration’s deportation plans as this dude’s horror story from inside the cell will become blasted across every single media platform, left right and center alike. Unwilling to accept that consequence of their own mistake, they’re instead opting to keep this man in a torture chamber for the rest of his life.

You know it, I know it, we all know it. It’s obvious and right there in front of us. Which makes the number of y’all who appear to be perfectly comfortable pretending like we’re just these weak little victims of circumstance outside of anyone’s control really pitiful. This is a choice the administration has made. Defend the choice on its merits or get out of the conversation. This nonsense that there’s just nothing weak little old innocent us is able to do is patently stupid.

Gridlock used to be the preferred method of keeping govt at bay at one point on this board. Now the majority seem to want unabated power.

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Met with the President of El Salvador in the WH. This was one of the topics discussed. Bukele then advised he would not release Garcia.

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As professor Maraist would say, "that dog won't hunt"

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He appears to be pretty directly and unequivocally ignoring a 9-0 supreme court order. That’s not just norms or standards, that’s something significant.

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You understand the non citizen who was deported was wanted in his native nation?

You understand that nation has laws and that he’s being held there under those laws?

You understand that short of a potential military invasion we cannot compel them to give the Salvadorian man back?

It’s no different than an American felon being deported from France, then taken to American an American prison to face charges here and then France changing their mind on a legal technicality and wanted him back.

The answer then would be the same as the answer now: no.

If the federal courts want him back they can go to El Salvador and attempt to take him back themselves, otherwise they can F off because it’s out of our and their jurisdiction at this point and no constitutional laws have been broken or even bent.

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Are you really arguing Trump is that much of a powerless pussy? He is so weak he couldn't negotiate the return? Is that really the hill you want to die on?

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He did ask President Bukele and he said no……so what now?

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What have they done to do so?

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What can they do??? The president of El Salvador said he will not return him.

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The right punishment is deportation. Deportation and torture are not the same thing. We have chosen the latter. And it’s a fricked up thing to do.

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what happens when someone is deported to other countries? Are they released back into the population or held in jail? IDK the process but in this case, and any other illegal immigrant, I don't really care what happens to them when they are deported.

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As professor Maraist would say, "that dog won't hunt"

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Of course what I posted is all factual.

Doing what you want would probably lead to some quid pro quo allegation in an article by The Atlantic and another Colonel Vindman arising.

My advice for you to stick to fishing and avoid hunting.

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What can they do??? The president of El Salvador said he will not return him.

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If Bukele is drying Trump, then the rational response of the admin would be to pull the prisoners we paid him to hold and return them to the US, and end the program. That would test the sincerity if the admin.

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Are you really arguing Trump is that much of a powerless pussy? He is so weak he couldn't negotiate the return? Is that really the hill you want to die on?

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So you want him to negotiate to achieve something that he doesn’t want?

That’s dumb.

I’ve said from day one that he should fly his own jet down there, treat the “father of the year” like a king on the return flight, and then process his arse upon landing.

Then, fly him back to El Salvador with some quickness, and without ANY comfort in mind.