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re: Alabama Senate passes abortion ban bill
Posted on 5/15/19 at 9:34 am to ShortyRob
Posted on 5/15/19 at 9:34 am to ShortyRob
quote:One seldom addresses every sub-issue in every post.
Nice post and then, you did what all the other libs in those threads did. You just flat pretended to not notice that they didn't restrict things to life or PHYSICAL health and the implications of it.
I have clarified many times that I make reference to physical health, as opposed to mental health, which is much-more subject to abuse. I would even limit it to “serious” physical health issues, but the fact that such a term is so subjective is one of the reasons that I would not impose criminal sanctions.
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Posted on 5/15/19 at 9:37 am to AggieHank86
quote:Oh pahleez. You tried to get away with it in the post you linked.
One seldom addresses every sub-issue in every post.
You aren't an idiot. Discussion of the difference between mental health and physical health exemptions covered HUNDREDS of posts during that period. Throwing up the word "health" alone was your tell. And you know it.
quote:Well then, your post makes no sense because NY allowed for both which means those of us taking note of it weren't being "chicken littles" and yet, you claimed we were.
I have clarified many times that I make reference to physical health, as opposed to mental health, which is much-more subject to abuse
Pick one for frick's sake.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 9:44 am to Argonaut
quote:
That's only true if you say that human life has the same value regardless of the current stage of development. Most educated people don't say that.
Serious question. If someone murders a pregnant women, should that person be charged with single homicide or double homicide?
Posted on 5/15/19 at 9:49 am to ShortyRob
quote:You see things that are not there. Psychologists have a term for this phenomenon.
You aren't an idiot. Discussion of the difference between mental health and physical health exemptions covered HUNDREDS of posts during that period. Throwing up the word "health" alone was your tell. And you know it.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 9:51 am to ShortyRob
quote:The Chicken Little comment was in reference to the people insisting that the Virginia statute would have allowed “post birth abortion,“ whatever the hell that may mean. It didn’t.quote:Well then, your post makes no sense because NY allowed for both which means those of us taking note of it weren't being "chicken littles" and yet, you claimed we were.
I have clarified many times that I make reference to physical health, as opposed to mental health, which is much-more subject to abuse
Pick one for frick's sake.
This post was edited on 5/15/19 at 9:56 am
Posted on 5/15/19 at 9:53 am to AggieHank86
quote:Why would you make this comment in response to my bringing up the NY law discussion? That's odd.
we Chicken Little comment was in reference to the people insisting that the Virginia statute would have allowed “post birth abortion,“
As for VA. I mean, the Gov was fricking unsure of what to do with a live baby OUTSIDE the womb in a failed abortion.
Just sayin......
Given that their law ALSO allowed for mental health exceptions, meaning HEALTHY late term abortions............his comments certainly created an issue.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 9:55 am to ShortyRob
quote:Shorty, I was enjoying our discussion, but I have no interest in spending time warding-off OogaBooga’s inanity. I will catch you later. Enjoy your time with your own personal Chester.
If you could get even ONE Democrat vote on such a restriction, we would long since have resolved this as a significant political issue on the American landscape.
Sure, there would still be fights on the edges, but it would be effectively over
This post was edited on 5/15/19 at 9:59 am
Posted on 5/15/19 at 9:56 am to AggieHank86
quote:
people insisting that the Virginia statute would have allowed “post birth abortion,“ whatever the hell that may mean. It didn’t.
You may want to tell the Gov:
"So in this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen. The infant would be delivered, the infant would be kept comfortable, the infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother
Posted on 5/15/19 at 10:21 am to msu202020
quote:
Serious question. If someone murders a pregnant women, should that person be charged with single homicide or double homicide?
Serious question. Why do you think this is a logical question to ask? I've never really understood why some people think this is a great point to make and why they don't understand how bad of a point it really is.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 10:22 am to AggieHank86
quote:This seems a convenient exit
Shorty, I was enjoying our discussion, but I have no interest in spending time warding-off OogaBooga’s inanity. I will catch you later. Enjoy your time with your own personal Chester.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 11:03 am to Roll Tide Ravens
Abortion, except in the cases of rape, incest, or mother health exception, is an unmitigated abomination to the very concept of life itself and that the Supremes (OF ALL PEOPLE) had the hubris to make it a constitutional right (HA!) out of whole cloth and then DOUBLED DOWN ON IT in Planned Parenthood v. Casey (thanks Souter, Kennedy and O'Connor) constitutes a giant stain on the reputation on the judiciary and rendered me so SO cynical when it comes to people like Roberts and Kennedy. Hope they overturn it if it ascends to SCOTUS but with "independent judiciary" nonsense-peddler Roberts still there not counting on it.
In the end, it all goes to prove that Robert Bork should've been on the Court, dude was wayyyyy too smart and overqualified for the job but politicians gonna politician to deprive us of a first-class judiciary. (Yes I know that's circular logic but Bork (RIP) would've been this nation's saving grace instead we got frickING Kennedy
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In the end, it all goes to prove that Robert Bork should've been on the Court, dude was wayyyyy too smart and overqualified for the job but politicians gonna politician to deprive us of a first-class judiciary. (Yes I know that's circular logic but Bork (RIP) would've been this nation's saving grace instead we got frickING Kennedy
)This post was edited on 5/15/19 at 11:06 am
Posted on 5/15/19 at 11:08 am to ThePTExperience1969
Shouldn’t this be put off till Trump puts another justice on the bench?
Posted on 5/15/19 at 11:14 am to Argonaut
quote:
Id love to hear abortion apologists debate the reasons why it should be legal besides the lie of "woman's choice".
Let's start with "it's none of your business."
Nor is it anyone's business if you get the shite beat out of you. Yet there are laws against it.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 11:16 am to Argonaut
quote:
That's only true if you say that human life has the same value regardless of the current stage of development. Most educated people don't say that.
It's hard to believe that you really are this fricking stupid. And yet, here you are.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 11:20 am to Argonaut
quote:
The statement "a woman has a right to her body" and "unborn children have rights to life" are not scientific statements. They are emotional statements.
I didn't make either of those statements, so I'm not sure of your point here.
Well, you did say this:
"Let's start with "it's none of your business."
So in addition to being hopelessly stupid, as with everyone else on your side of this argument, you're fricking dishonest.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 11:21 am to Argonaut
quote:
I've never really understood...
There's a helluva lot you don't understand. You obviously don't have the mental capacity.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 11:39 am to GeorgeWest
quote:
The anti-abortion zealots are wasting their time.
Not really , the amount of abortions would drop and taxpayers wouldn't be stuck paying for abortions through Planned Parenthood.
And if you think taxpayers don't indirectly pay for those abortions , I have some swampland I will sell you.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 12:08 pm to Roll Tide Ravens
Alabama....
Where your wife is free to refuse to bake a cake for a gay man, but not to refuse to carry a rapist's child.
Good God this country is going off the deep end.
Where your wife is free to refuse to bake a cake for a gay man, but not to refuse to carry a rapist's child.
Good God this country is going off the deep end.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 12:24 pm to Roll Tide Ravens
Sign that bill!
Posted on 5/15/19 at 12:27 pm to HeadLightBanDit
Apparently you need a little dose of 1st Amendment freedom of association biotch!
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