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re: Alabama Senate passes abortion ban bill

Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:36 pm to
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164083 posts
Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:36 pm to
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I'm just illustrating how stupid your point was.

You failed miserably.
Posted by Argonaut
Member since Nov 2015
2059 posts
Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:36 pm to
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Id love to hear abortion apologists debate the reasons why it should be legal besides the lie of "woman's choice".


Let's start with "it's none of your business."
Posted by SD Tider
San Diego
Member since May 2019
2500 posts
Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:37 pm to
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If it makes it to the Supreme Court there is a very good chance Roe v Wade gets overturned.


no there isn’t


Why do you think that?
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
38911 posts
Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:38 pm to
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It now heads to Governor Ivey’s desk to be signed.


Thank God it isn't headed to Governor Abram's desk.
Posted by 187undercover
Member since May 2019
1538 posts
Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:38 pm to
Murder is my business and always has been our business.
Posted by Argonaut
Member since Nov 2015
2059 posts
Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:39 pm to
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You failed miserably.


No I didn't. It was a slam dunk and your ignorance made that happen.
Posted by TOSOV
Member since Jan 2016
8922 posts
Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:39 pm to
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The law is, without question, unconstitutional under current Supreme Court case law.


Well scotus just went against SC case law yesterday with the Apple/3rd Party ruling, so not impossible.

Though i'm not in the "rape/incest" camp, I'll take it that that is the only issue. Go back, and put in controls for cases to be audited to avoid abuse then I'll take it this round.
Posted by SD Tider
San Diego
Member since May 2019
2500 posts
Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:39 pm to
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Let's start with "it's none of your business."


That doesn’t work if you believe that a fetus is a human life though.
Posted by lsufan9193969700
3 miles from B.R.
Member since Sep 2003
55108 posts
Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:40 pm to
You don't seem caring....or smart.
Posted by Argonaut
Member since Nov 2015
2059 posts
Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:40 pm to
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Murder is my business and always has been our business.


If it were murder we'd have put a lot of women in prison by now.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67736 posts
Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:41 pm to
Since the sex strike is on,

there won't be pregnancies to abort anyway.
Posted by 187undercover
Member since May 2019
1538 posts
Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:42 pm to
Tell me what is the difference between killing a baby in the womb because I don't want my baby no more compared to a thug putting two slugs in the back of someone's head.

Dont preach the 1 percent where they could die if something isn't done. Come at me with the meat of the bell curve: those are ones who just don't want to lose their careers; don't want to afford a baby.

How about absintence? Alyssa seems to think that is a great idea. And I do too.

This post was edited on 5/14/19 at 9:44 pm
Posted by Argonaut
Member since Nov 2015
2059 posts
Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:43 pm to
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That doesn’t work if you believe that a fetus is a human life though.


That's only true if you say that human life has the same value regardless of the current stage of development. Most educated people don't say that.
Posted by 187undercover
Member since May 2019
1538 posts
Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:43 pm to
I agree. We should have.

WE did before when these ladies used a coat hanger in the 7/11 women's bathroom.

You know why it is legal and also why it shouldn't be legal.

Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69265 posts
Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:44 pm to
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Argonaut
Honest question, how can you possibly review the last 15 years or so of fetal research, with much improved testing techniques, tools, etc than we had before, and not come away with the conclusion that a fetus is a human being?

The "clump of cells" idea has been thoroughly debunked.

I am fine with you believing in the right to abortion, just don't sit there and blatantly dehumanize the living being inside of a woman.

Argue your point by saying that, because it is inside a woman and dependent on her, it does not deserve protection. There is a debate to be had there.

But don't insult research and empiricism by claiming it is a "clump of cells"
This post was edited on 5/14/19 at 9:45 pm
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
10371 posts
Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:44 pm to
Civil war over the repeal of roe v wade.... makes a ton of sense.
Posted by Argonaut
Member since Nov 2015
2059 posts
Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:45 pm to
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Tell me what is the difference between killing a baby in the womb because I don't want my baby no more compared to a thug putting two slugs in the back of someone's head.


What's the difference between aborting a zygote and shooting an adult in the head? Is that really your question?
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:45 pm to
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This law is designed to be challenged in the courts with the hope that it will make it to the Supreme Court of the United States and that the Supremes will overturn Roe v. Wade (and Planned Parenthood v. Casey). The law is, without question, unconstitutional under current Supreme Court case law.


I doubt Roe v Wade will be overturned.

I hope I am wrong.

I think about half of the Liberals would commit suicide if their main political platform of butchering a fetus was to be overturned .
Posted by Argonaut
Member since Nov 2015
2059 posts
Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:46 pm to
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I agree. We should have.


These two statements are not compatible with what I posted.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51798 posts
Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:46 pm to
Every once in a while, the Gump gets it right.
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