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Posted on 5/9/20 at 5:20 pm to AggieHank86
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Arguably a producing cause but not a proximate cause.
K
Either way
He's alive today if he isn't a thief.
So. My sympathy meter died
This post was edited on 5/9/20 at 5:21 pm
Posted on 5/9/20 at 5:20 pm to joshnorris14
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Posted on 5/9/20 at 5:21 pm to texashorn
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Another poster disputes this. Can anyone rectify the claimed factual differences
Well yea look at what the 2 murders told police at the time. They said they saw someone running, not they saw him break into a house and run away. The other poster is obfuscating with something witnessed weeks prior to the murder
Posted on 5/9/20 at 5:21 pm to teke184
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Then again, LeBron has been in a bubble since ESPN was broadcasting his fricking high school games.
even before that.
Posted on 5/9/20 at 5:21 pm to davyjones
quote:Solid analysis, IMO.
IMO a jury will never see the referenced video because the judge will rule pretrial that it falls outside the parameters of a legitimate/justifiable citizens arrest scenario. Thus the video results in only a prejudicial effect on the deceased and has no, or can have no, probative value as to the aforementioned citizens arrest defense.
quote:Tough sell here.
based on purely technical legal concepts....not philosophical or emotional.
Posted on 5/9/20 at 5:21 pm to macatak911
Ok, looks like the Georgia Supreme Court defines “immediate knowledge” as “senses other than sight.”
Like using trained knowledge that the smell of marijuana indicates the physical presence of marijuana.
Like using trained knowledge that the smell of marijuana indicates the physical presence of marijuana.
This post was edited on 5/9/20 at 5:24 pm
Posted on 5/9/20 at 5:21 pm to joshnorris14
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O.C.G.A. 17-4-60 (2010)
17-4-60. Grounds for arrest
A private person may arrest an offender if the offense is committed in his presence or within his immediate knowledge. If the offense is a felony and the offender is escaping or attempting to escape, a private person may arrest him upon reasonable and probable grounds of suspicion.
Couple this with the daddy having direct knowledge that Ahmaud had stolen in the past....Maybe George Barnhill (2nd DA to have the case) wasn’t that far off after all.
Posted on 5/9/20 at 5:22 pm to ShortyRob
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One can also reasonably foresee that if one steals, one might get shot.
yes, by the property owner during the commission of the crime.
not by jethro and billy bob after a chase down the street
not defensible
Posted on 5/9/20 at 5:22 pm to LuckyTiger
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People have become so emotional and irrational about this case that there cannot be a sound discussion
This is because the media AGAIN successfully set the hook of poor little innocent black kid killed by racist white people for no reason at all narrative
Now people are vested in their position so they won't give it up
you think this wouldn't work after the media has gotten away with it so many times but you'd be wrong
Posted on 5/9/20 at 5:22 pm to udtiger
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Posted on 5/9/20 at 5:23 pm to FlexDawg
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McMichaels’ actions were justified under Georgia’s open-carry law, and a separate state law allows a private citizen to attempt arrests if an “offense is committed in his presence or within his immediate knowledge.” He also noted Georgia’s stand-your-ground law allows someone who feels threatened “to use deadly force to protect himself,” without having to first try to retreat
Except he had no immediate knowledge of the crime. According to McMichael s he saw someone running and went to confront them. Stand your ground doesnt apply when you are the initiator of the violence. Its stand your ground, no go chase someone down pull a gun on them and then defend that ground. You dont have a duty to retreat, but you dont get to be the aggressor lmao.
Posted on 5/9/20 at 5:23 pm to texashorn
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Ok, looks like the Georgia Supreme Court defines “immediate knowledge” as “senses other than sight.”
Ruh roh
ROFLMAO
Posted on 5/9/20 at 5:23 pm to AMS
I wouldn’t be 100 percent sure they didn’t.
The media already told us they were hunting black joggers.
So that lie is down, whatelse is being hidden/spun?
Even if they did witness it they are stupid for how out of control it got.
The media already told us they were hunting black joggers.
So that lie is down, whatelse is being hidden/spun?
Even if they did witness it they are stupid for how out of control it got.
Posted on 5/9/20 at 5:24 pm to Kafka
Nietzsche was ahead of his time
This post was edited on 5/9/20 at 5:35 pm
Posted on 5/9/20 at 5:24 pm to cgrand
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yes, by the property owner during the commission of the crime.
not by jethro and billy bob after a chase down the street
Don't confuse my point regarding what an individual can for see when he's stealing with anything other than that
I don't give a damn who he thinks he might get shot by stealing is a good way to get shot
He's dead because he's a thief plain and simple. Everything else is emotion based claptrap
Posted on 5/9/20 at 5:24 pm to dgnx6
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citiznes arrest in georgia is legal. But they were still the aggressor imo. Especially since the cops were already on their way.
They would be fricked if I was on the jury.
But... Everyone needs to see this and stop with the he was just jogging. I saw this video earlier pffft or whatever posted it.
Black men are not being murdered jogging in their neighborhood by white supremacists.
Holding a gun and requesting compliance is not being an aggressor unless your intent is to kill them. Ahmaud was the aggressor because he charged them tried to take the gun. They aren’t shooting at him until he charged them.
Posted on 5/9/20 at 5:25 pm to AMS
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Its stand your ground, no go chase someone down pull a gun on them and then defend that ground. You dont have a duty to retreat, but you dont get to be the aggressor lmao.
exactly
it’s a one way ticket to a manslaughter conviction
Posted on 5/9/20 at 5:25 pm to Strannix
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prison, but the "muh black man cant go jogging" narrative is over.
Deal with it
Never cared for that argument. It doesnt matter. They have no legit justification.
Posted on 5/9/20 at 5:25 pm to Tiguar
quote:No. That is simply the first of several questions.quote:So, basically, if they can prove they knew this guy was the guy who committed the felony, they will walk.
Inaccurate. Looser standard for felonies, but still a bonehead move.
This post was edited on 5/9/20 at 5:26 pm
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