re: AI and the job market 5 years from now

two can play that game i down voted you as well!

you're winning the intenet

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AI will simply enhance their abilities to do their jobs and make them more productive

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This is what has happened with AI and GIS.

Based on the data and desirables, there are too many nuances to let AI and AI alone take over. You still have to know the prompts, commands and lingo to get what you want, then tweak it, but all it's done is innovate and streamline. That last word definitely is a negative outcome as far as employment numbers go, but I don't see it completely replacing humans any time soon, and if you need real time, surveying grade data collection with .001" tolerances, nothing will replace a human being on the ground with a GPS and/or total station.

Fiduciary duty is a very real thing, so we're not stopping AI, and if you're banking on a politician to protect you from corporations then you're delusional. They do what they're paid to do: protect the conglomerates and then have them pay for reelection. That's not the "good" kind of capitalism, that's state capitalism: Marx himself said it's a mandatory preliminary type of government before implementing full-blown socialism.

The sweet spot will have to be found. Nobody knows the answers, and a bunch of old boomers with no real world experience in DC who can't even put an attachment in an email without their army of staffers damn sure won't swoop in and save us. I predict the 2 segments of society who will be impacted first will be on the extremes: the lowest skill, e.g., floor sweepers, and some of the highest, e.g., coders, but the latter will have a far better chance of parlaying their skill set into being of use for AI, albeit in much smaller numbers.

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You aren’t accounting for the exponential increase in its capabilities.

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LLM "scaling" doesn't lead to AGI or anything remotely close to exponential increases ... and the "agentic" AI is just coders injecting code into the neural network transformers ...

Until neuro-symbolic AI is getting the investment dollars, the exponential increase is going to get closer and closer to 0 ...

But then what do I know (only been working in software and AI for 25+ years) ...

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My company recently implemented an AI program that does risk analysis, we now have 6-8 employees running out of work by 9 am daily.

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This is the actual real risk. People that "don't code" but are in "IT" or "data science" or whatever ...

If you/your kids know "how to code" they'll be fine for a long, long time.

Problem is that 95% of the CS graduates I interview ... don't know "how to code". They know how to use GUI tools or write SQL queries or implement a particular software system ... all higher level functions vs. writing embedded C or Java, etc.

Tell your kids to punt on Python and learn a real language like C or Java ...

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My company recently implemented an AI program that does risk analysis, we now have 6-8 employees running out of work by 9 am daily.


This is the actual real risk. People that "don't code" but are in "IT" or "data science" or whatever ...

If you/your kids know "how to code" they'll be fine for a long, long time.

Problem is that 95% of the CS graduates I interview ... don't know "how to code". They know how to use GUI tools or write SQL queries or implement a particular software system ... all higher level functions vs. writing embedded C or Java, etc.

Tell your kids to punt on Python and learn a real language like C or Java ...

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Another interesting point that probably deserves its own thread: If you have children, how do you set them up for success. Is college and student loans still the option? Apprenticeships? or just learning skills on cheaper online courses?

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Maybe, but can this make the work to where one highly proficient man can do what used to take multiple men?

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Probably but they are doing this now without AI. Companies are always going to take shortcuts

AI is the realization of a lot of things, but one big one if the investor class who only cares about profit. Profit is great, but when that's all there is, you get what our economy has become. And it's going to be huge irony when it results a fat chunk of the population on a damned dole and shoved into should-be-condemned government housing under the banner of "universal living wage" or whatever they're calling it now. But the root cause will be a few parasites who have never built or invented a damned thing forcing a tech god to replace humanity.

A lot of 50s-60s-70s sci-fi will start to look very ahead of their time afterwards.

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Yeah, I got into an heated conversation with my wife because a few moments prior it “confirmed” my mistaken belief that a yard was longer than a meter.

I lost quite a bit of faith in AI that day.

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You mean a system trained on Twitter, TikTok and all the social network sludge can get basic facts wrong ...

It's probably wrong on what you can do with Tide Pods as well ...

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Now we no longer need 2 men...but 1 man to do the same thing

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I think that is short sighted. The best companies are the ones that will provide twice as much value for their customers with the same number of people.

The best employees will be the ones who adapt to using AI and become more productive.

We no longer have to make the decision on whether we spend capital on designing a new user interface or upgrading the payroll system. Why not do both?

I would venture to say that just keeping the AI system up to date will be a task. Having an AI system that is obsolete will be a competitive disadvantage to companies. Keeping hardware up to date and figuring out how to make the AI work to give your company a competitive advantage is going to be huge.

It's going to take the next 10-20 years to drive AI from the corporate conglomerates to the small and mid-size businesses.

I'm not saying that people won't lose their jobs because of AI. I am saying that in an economy based on capitalism, we will find something to do with the resources and become more productive.

Our economy is dynamic, not static.

Why don’t we ask AI about this problem