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re: Ahmaud Arbery Timbaliers and Hammer

Posted on 5/10/20 at 2:16 pm to
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128773 posts
Posted on 5/10/20 at 2:16 pm to
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Looks like boots of some sort


Well, they’re not boots.
Posted by TigahTeeth
Georgia
Member since Feb 2016
6503 posts
Posted on 5/10/20 at 2:19 pm to
maybe, maybe not. There definitely not running shoes for such an avid runner/jogger though.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128773 posts
Posted on 5/10/20 at 2:20 pm to
Not maybe. We have other video where they’re clearly not boots.
Posted by xGeauxLSUx
United States of Atrophy
Member since Oct 2008
22899 posts
Posted on 5/10/20 at 2:29 pm to
quote:

Well. They are legal there. If they had gone to McMichaels house last week to make a “citizens arrest” based on the video, they could have shot him dead by your logic if he resisted.



They shouldn't have taken it into their own hands to arrest him while armed.

Why did he run at them and start attacking the guy with the shotgun?

This post was edited on 5/10/20 at 2:30 pm
Posted by Reubaltaich
A nation under duress
Member since Jun 2006
5539 posts
Posted on 5/10/20 at 2:36 pm to
quote:

With the driver being the one disembarking the vehicle, why then did running man decide to veer right, to the passenger side?


IDK and neither do you nor does anyone else.

My guess would be that he was scared of being detained because he had prior convictions.

Getting caught would have meant an automatic ticket back to prison for Arbery.

Watch some of those Live PD episodes and you will see people do extremely stupid stuff when being pulled over or questioned by the police.

The fact of the matter is that Arbery was the aggressor in this incident and he paid for it with his life.

Look man, I hate the guy got killed as much as anyone else but sometimes people bring bad things on themselves and this was just another example of that
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36693 posts
Posted on 5/10/20 at 2:54 pm to
This is everyday business in my world and I'm indifferent to the emotional aspects of such matters. And I certainly don't mean that in any boastful type of way. It's actually a net negative in my opinion. Anyhow, the on-the-ground reality of most of this type stuff is much less exciting than our discussion and debate on this forum. Probably 85% of the specific issues we're all discussing would most likely be excluded from mention in the actual trial of this case.
Posted by Lee Chatelain
Official TD Sauces Club Member
Member since Oct 2008
12478 posts
Posted on 5/10/20 at 3:04 pm to
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Not maybe. We have other video where they’re clearly not boots.


What does it matter either way, you seem aggravated.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 5/10/20 at 3:06 pm to
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Why did he run at them and start attacking the guy with the shotgun


Maybe because he was chased down by a guy brandishing a shotgun.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128773 posts
Posted on 5/10/20 at 3:08 pm to
quote:

What does it matter either way, you seem aggravated.


It doesn’t really matter. Which makes it odd that people slowed down video that seemed to show boots and then yell “Timbalands!! Zomg!” And then they ignored obvious video of him not wearing boots.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 5/10/20 at 3:08 pm to
quote:


The fact of the matter is that Arbery was the aggressor in this incident and he paid for it with his life.



Nah. You cant brandish a shotgun at someone and call the person responding defensively to it the aggressor. That’s the main fact of the matter why these 2 dudes are going to the pen.
Posted by More&Les
Member since Nov 2012
14684 posts
Posted on 5/10/20 at 4:20 pm to
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Define y’all for me so I understand who you think you’re arguing with.


You are the dude claiming he drove somewhere and parked...
Posted by More&Les
Member since Nov 2012
14684 posts
Posted on 5/10/20 at 5:00 pm to
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Absolutely, but the claim was made that Travis impeded Arbery's attempt to get around the truck. But again there is no video confirmation that Travis blocked, impeded, prevented, or obstructed Arbery's access to free passage around that pickup


This is patently false, when we see Arbery approaching the vehicle Travis is outside the vehicle near the driver's side door, we see Arbery (likely upon seeing the shotgun) make a hard right and go around the passenger side of the vehicle, once the camera refocuses both men are moving from the middle front of the vehicle meaning Travis HAD to move toward Arbery, and by the time you see Arbery lurching, at least on shot has already been fired.

Murder.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36693 posts
Posted on 5/10/20 at 5:03 pm to
The entire point of Jr and Sr being there in the first place was to pursue and confront running man. I'd say it's a tough sell for them to assert that they were just minding their own business chilling, when all of a sudden runner came in hot at them like a waubanchee.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24273 posts
Posted on 5/10/20 at 5:07 pm to
quote:

The only difference would be they wouldn’t be guilty of murder.


Wait I thought they were definitely raciss murdering red necks y’all.
Posted by Skeezer
Member since Apr 2017
2296 posts
Posted on 5/10/20 at 5:10 pm to
Jesus Christ!

Even if he was that doesn’t warrant an attempted kidnapping and murder
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46671 posts
Posted on 5/10/20 at 5:11 pm to
quote:

Wait I thought they were definitely raciss murdering red necks y’all.


By the letter of the law, if the victim charged them without reasonable fear for his life they would be guilty of voluntary manslaughter under Georgia law and not murder.

But the chances they don’t do some prison time in any scenario are very low.
Posted by honeybadger07
The Woodlands
Member since Jul 2015
4219 posts
Posted on 5/10/20 at 5:28 pm to
Oh nice, in your neighborhood I suppose?
Posted by LSU7096
Member since May 2004
3008 posts
Posted on 5/10/20 at 5:52 pm to
Dumb arse attacked person holding a gun. WTF was he thinking? "I am going to take the shotgun from the fat redneck and shoot his daddy with the pistol!!!"

Darqin award winner!!! He was caught trespassing and would be alive today had he just waited for cops to arrive and received a citation or warning.
This post was edited on 5/11/20 at 7:13 am
Posted by More&Les
Member since Nov 2012
14684 posts
Posted on 5/10/20 at 6:24 pm to
quote:

and Hammer by LSU7096
Dumb arse attacked person holding a gun. WTF was he thinking? "I am going to take the shotgun from the fay redneck and shoot his daddy with the pistol!!!"


If you try to avoid said person and he cuts off your means of egress with said shotgun pointed at you, you feel you have no choice but to try and take the weapon away, no?
Posted by Jack Bauers HnK
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
6077 posts
Posted on 5/10/20 at 6:44 pm to
quote:

If you try to avoid said person and he cuts off your means of egress with said shotgun pointed at you, you feel you have no choice but to try and take the weapon away, no?


Is there the first shred of evidence that a shotgun was pointed at him before he attacked?
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