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re: Ahmaud Arbery had a history of claiming to be a jogger to cover for criminal activities.
Posted on 4/4/21 at 9:46 pm to Chet Donnely
Posted on 4/4/21 at 9:46 pm to Chet Donnely
It means you’re hunting a person to capture them.
A manhunt is a hunt that isn’t necessarily about killing someone.
A manhunt is a hunt that isn’t necessarily about killing someone.
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Posted on 4/4/21 at 9:47 pm to OMLandshark
quote:
Wasn’t TOSOV Pesticide’s buddy? You know the openly racist officer on this board who got caught being overtly racist to black people
Opinions different than yours doesn’t make them racist
Posted on 4/4/21 at 9:48 pm to the808bass
That’s not how the word hunt was being used by certain people in this thread, and everyone knows it. Why fight over something so stupid and trivial?
Posted on 4/4/21 at 9:48 pm to Chet Donnely
I was the person he was referring to. So you’re saying you know how I was using it better than I do? Cool.
Posted on 4/4/21 at 9:49 pm to bisonduck
quote:
It was more like fishing with the intent of catch and release.
But you don't go fishing with a gun. Well, maybe some people might, but catch and release probably ain't in the cards on such a scenario.
I see what you're getting at regardless.
Posted on 4/4/21 at 9:50 pm to the808bass
You weren’t the only person to use the word. Jesus you’re insufferable. Cool.
Posted on 4/4/21 at 9:50 pm to Chet Donnely
frick you.
Posted on 4/4/21 at 9:50 pm to the808bass
quote:This is the simple, basic fact that these folks cannot seem to grasp.
Whether or not what Arbery did was smart is almost irrelevant to the legal discussion.
It does not matter if Arbery was a bad guy. He probably was. It does not matter if Arbery was smart. He probably was not. It does not matter if Cletus and Jethro had the best intentions. They well may have. But they committed several felonies, and someone died. Felony murder. End of story.
Posted on 4/4/21 at 9:51 pm to the808bass
And you’re a tough guy. Cool.
Posted on 4/4/21 at 11:10 pm to bisonduck
quote:
Usually one hunts to kill.
In everyday usage even if you ignore the association with killing (a few here plainly have not) “hunt” means that you don’t know where something is. You’re looking for something. They knew where he was. They were chasing him, not “hunting” him.
Posted on 4/4/21 at 11:17 pm to Flats
This arbery guy was probably scared as shite that a bunch of white dudes who are civilians chased him down and drew guns on him
He could have easily thought that I have to try something or be killed
I feel no remorse for these dudes pulling a Mississippi burning jump in the back of a truck and chase down one guy. Call the fricking cops
He could have easily thought that I have to try something or be killed
I feel no remorse for these dudes pulling a Mississippi burning jump in the back of a truck and chase down one guy. Call the fricking cops
This post was edited on 4/4/21 at 11:18 pm
Posted on 4/4/21 at 11:28 pm to MeatPants
quote:
I feel no remorse for these dudes
I don’t either. I just don’t understand the desire to try to make what they did sound worse than what it was.
Posted on 4/4/21 at 11:57 pm to MeatPants
quote:There’s from what I know(which ain’t much), a probably 78% chance that what you just typed was the justified thing in the situation.
This arbery guy was probably scared as shite that a bunch of white dudes who are civilians chased him down and drew guns on him
Posted on 4/5/21 at 9:59 am to AggieHank86
quote:
Do you know who could tell you about the wisdom of surrendering to rednecks with guns and getting in the truck with them? James Byrd Jr.
Oh, wait, he can’t tell us, can he?
Take it up with the Georgia legislature.
Posted on 4/5/21 at 9:21 pm to AggieHank86
quote:I guess it was a smart decision to rush a guy with a shotgun, because my auto-correct put to instead of too
quote:
He was just to dumb to live
Posted on 4/7/21 at 1:38 pm to L.A.
Here is what many are missing:
It is not known for fact that McMichael shot Arbery.
We do not know if the weapon discharged as result of M pulling the trigger or as result of A yanking on the weapon.
The burden of proof is on the prosecution to prove beyond reasonable doubt that the weapon fired as result of M pulling the trigger and not A pulling at the weapon. I don’t know that such is provable. Once a second party has hands on the firearm it becomes difficult if not impossible to prove which party caused the firing of the weapon.
The fact that Arbery was violently yanking on the weapon when the gun discharged, and it is thus difficult to know which party caused the firing of the weapon, was a reason cited by the original D.A. in his decision not to press charges.
One caveat here may be if McM said to police or anyone that, yes, he shot Arbery.
yes, my account is new and I have few posts. It drives me nuts that it is rarely mentioned that we do not even know for a fact that McMichael shot Arbery. Yet it is regularly presented as fact that a white man shot Arbery, by people who cannot prove such. So I created an account in order to add that to the conversation. I didn’t see anyone else mentioning the elephant in the room: doubt as to who caused the gun to fire during the struggle for the weapon.
It is not known for fact that McMichael shot Arbery.
We do not know if the weapon discharged as result of M pulling the trigger or as result of A yanking on the weapon.
The burden of proof is on the prosecution to prove beyond reasonable doubt that the weapon fired as result of M pulling the trigger and not A pulling at the weapon. I don’t know that such is provable. Once a second party has hands on the firearm it becomes difficult if not impossible to prove which party caused the firing of the weapon.
The fact that Arbery was violently yanking on the weapon when the gun discharged, and it is thus difficult to know which party caused the firing of the weapon, was a reason cited by the original D.A. in his decision not to press charges.
One caveat here may be if McM said to police or anyone that, yes, he shot Arbery.
yes, my account is new and I have few posts. It drives me nuts that it is rarely mentioned that we do not even know for a fact that McMichael shot Arbery. Yet it is regularly presented as fact that a white man shot Arbery, by people who cannot prove such. So I created an account in order to add that to the conversation. I didn’t see anyone else mentioning the elephant in the room: doubt as to who caused the gun to fire during the struggle for the weapon.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 1:44 pm to LightMerchant
Well done Light! I was wondering why this thread was still so active.
Welcome to fight club!
Welcome to fight club!
Posted on 4/7/21 at 1:52 pm to LightMerchant
quote:Welcome.
Here is what many are missing:
It is not known for fact that McMichael shot Arbery.
You make an interesting point, but it is not relevant to the easiest-to-prove charges against clan McMichaels. They are charged with "felony murder." All the prosecution must prove is an underlying felony and that someone died.
If the defendants were committing a felony (e.g. aggravated assault, false imprisonment or attempted false imprisonment, all of which are charged), it would not matter WHO pulled the trigger, so long as Arbery died. It would not matter if he tripped on his own shoelaces, hit his head and died of a hematoma with Junior never having come within 10 meters of him.
Committed Felony? check
Arbery Died? check
Felony Murder. check
Posted on 4/7/21 at 2:00 pm to AggieHank86
Are we positive the person committed a felony that resulted in the death? There must be a nexus.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 2:38 pm to AggieHank86
Slightly different topic, but when does McM lose his right to self-defense?
Does pointing a weapon as someone mean you lose your right to self-defense and have to allow the other party to kill you?
If a person is open-carrying and at any point their weapon points in my direction I can legally kill them and they cannot defend themselves. If they kill me after I attack them they are guilty of murder because they were the instigator in having open-carried and allowed the firearm to point in my direction constituting deadly threat to my life?
Does pointing a weapon as someone mean you lose your right to self-defense and have to allow the other party to kill you?
If a person is open-carrying and at any point their weapon points in my direction I can legally kill them and they cannot defend themselves. If they kill me after I attack them they are guilty of murder because they were the instigator in having open-carried and allowed the firearm to point in my direction constituting deadly threat to my life?
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