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Administrative bloat in Public Schools - Mississippi numbers
Posted on 4/11/24 at 9:48 am
Posted on 4/11/24 at 9:48 am
https://www.osa.ms.gov/documents/GAD/2024/2024-Classroom%20Spending.pdf
From Shad White, the state Auditor.
Some great charts on this link from the state auditor. Public schools continue to waste an insane amount of money on useless administrators but we are not allowed to talk about this. If you want to control your child’s education money and not let it go to waste like this, you hate public schools!
From Shad White, the state Auditor.
quote:
Executive Summary
Mississippi taxpayers spend more on public K-12 education than any other spending category in the state budget.1 The Mississippi Office of the State Auditor (OSA) has published multiple reports since 2019 showing how Mississippi public schools spend taxpayer money. These reports have ranged from broad evaluations of statewide education spending to detailed studies of individual school districts. Now, analysts have obtained new data to show taxpayers updated information about how their money is spent on Mississippi’s K-12 education system.
In April 2019, the Auditor’s office released a report on educational spending in Mississippi primarily using data from the Mississippi Department of Education (MDE).2 That report showed how Mississippi’s education spending over a 10-year period (2006-2016) had failed to focus spending inside classrooms where it matters most. Administrative spending went up while the number of teachers and students went down. It also showed Mississippi could have redeployed $358 million annually—enough to fund thousands of dollars per teacher in pay raises—if spending outside the classroom had been kept the same, per student, over those ten years.
Another report from the Auditor’s office, released in November 2019, compared education spending in Mississippi to that in other Southern states.3 That report showed Mississippi spent a greater percentage of its education money on administration than every other Southern state except the District of Columbia, which was included in the analysis. Since these reports were published, analysts have obtained new data and examined Mississippi’s education spending trends. This report uses data primarily from the National Center for Education Statistics (NCES).4 These new data show Mississippi continues to prioritize outside-the-classroom (OTC) spending—especially spending on administration—over inside-the-classroom (ITC) spending.
Some great charts on this link from the state auditor. Public schools continue to waste an insane amount of money on useless administrators but we are not allowed to talk about this. If you want to control your child’s education money and not let it go to waste like this, you hate public schools!
Posted on 4/11/24 at 9:51 am to RebelExpress38
That state auditor is just trying to hate on "educators".
They deserve their $150k salary.
Despite having zero marketable skills in private sector.
They deserve their $150k salary.
Despite having zero marketable skills in private sector.
Posted on 4/11/24 at 9:51 am to RebelExpress38
Bureaucratic creep is a problem everywhere: Business, government, schools, military. The managerial class has some kind of fricking voodoo to keep themselves seemingly relevant.
Posted on 4/11/24 at 10:10 am to RebelExpress38
Yes, go check out the parking lot at the East Baton Rouge School board office and notice the make/ model of each vehicle. Also school boards hide more over paid bureaucrats at satellite facilities that you would not expect to find them.
Posted on 4/11/24 at 10:11 am to RebelExpress38
Texas is top-heavy af in EVERY ISD.
Big money.
I mean BIG.
Big money.
I mean BIG.
Posted on 4/11/24 at 10:13 am to RebelExpress38
quote:
you hate public schools!
Posted on 4/11/24 at 10:17 am to RebelExpress38
They just need MORE money and that will fix everything. Come on, man!
Posted on 4/11/24 at 10:23 am to RebelExpress38
You should see the lunch room at the Caddo Parish Central Office in Shreveport. It can serve over 100 diners and it's always full regardless of the time of day. Staff likes to take lots of breaks.
OTOH Bossier Central office is a fraction of that size.
OTOH Bossier Central office is a fraction of that size.
Posted on 4/11/24 at 10:29 am to Zach
Bossier has its fair share of administrators, supervisors, directors, facilitators, coordinators, interventionists, etc.
Also,would like to know how many are on drop.
Also,would like to know how many are on drop.
Posted on 4/11/24 at 10:37 am to Bistineaubengal
quote:
Bossier has its fair share of administrators, supervisors, directors, facilitators, coordinators, interventionists
Yeah, but Bossier doesn't do racial duplication hiring like Caddo. Caddo has some positions requiring one person but they hire 2, a black and a white to make things equal. There are two girls at the front door greeting visitors. One black and one white. They take turns saying 'Hello' to people walking in.
Posted on 4/11/24 at 10:47 am to Zach
I wouldn't know specifically about Caddo, but many parishes seem to be top heavy.
Bossier also has their admin. folks spread out in several locations.
Bossier also has their admin. folks spread out in several locations.
Posted on 4/11/24 at 10:50 am to RebelExpress38
Yep, a stand has to be made. These public school administrators are extremely, I mean EXTREMELY, overpaid. In the very least, redirect the revenue with bottom up funding.
It is unconscionable.
The Time Has Come!!
It is unconscionable.
The Time Has Come!!
This post was edited on 4/11/24 at 9:04 pm
Posted on 4/11/24 at 11:15 am to RebelExpress38
quote:
Administrative spending went up while the number of teachers and students went down.
See also: the entire college/university system where federal money is accepted.
Posted on 4/11/24 at 11:19 am to Bard
The only way to reverse it is to give parents power over the money allocated to the students. It would be so much more efficient and would force schools to compete for the dollars.
Posted on 4/11/24 at 11:30 am to Bistineaubengal
quote:
Bossier also has their admin. folks spread out in several locations.
Yeah, I noticed that difference and I think it's because of shape. Shreveport is easily the center of Caddo. But Bossier is north-south long and skinny. So, some stuff is in Benton and some in Bossier City.
Posted on 4/11/24 at 6:43 pm to RebelExpress38
Reply to:RebelExpress38
Giving parents the power over the money allocated to the students sounds like it would be a good move but it would do two things:
1. In order to qualify, private schools would have to meet certain litmus tests (ie teach certain curriculum and testing mandates) it might not happen initially but it will happen. Effectively narrowing "school choice"
2. It will dramatically increase the total fees of private school much like what has been seen with the universities.
I know it would be great to offset the cost with some of that tax money but it never works out how governments says. Think Obama care etc. it is the creation of a dependency in both the parents and the the private schools. Many private schools received covid funds and bent over for it to. Be careful what you ask for.
Giving parents the power over the money allocated to the students sounds like it would be a good move but it would do two things:
1. In order to qualify, private schools would have to meet certain litmus tests (ie teach certain curriculum and testing mandates) it might not happen initially but it will happen. Effectively narrowing "school choice"
2. It will dramatically increase the total fees of private school much like what has been seen with the universities.
I know it would be great to offset the cost with some of that tax money but it never works out how governments says. Think Obama care etc. it is the creation of a dependency in both the parents and the the private schools. Many private schools received covid funds and bent over for it to. Be careful what you ask for.
Posted on 4/11/24 at 6:59 pm to RebelExpress38
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Public schools continue to waste an insane amount of money on useless administrators
Posted on 4/11/24 at 10:48 pm to RebelExpress38
It’s every school system in every state. Don’t forget the lifetime pensions. I have a good friend whose sister was a curriculum coordinator for the state of Florida. She’s been collecting 125k a year plus health benefits for the last 10 years. She’s 65.
Cut the admin and pay the people that actually educate.
Cut the admin and pay the people that actually educate.
Posted on 4/11/24 at 10:57 pm to RebelExpress38
quote:
you hate public schools!
In today's society all they do is let them color, preach some woke racist bullshite to them and send back home to you.
But they do get to eat. Forgot that
Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:47 am to ironwood
quote:
1. In order to qualify, private schools would have to meet certain litmus tests (ie teach certain curriculum and testing mandates) it might not happen initially but it will happen. Effectively narrowing "school choice"
2. It will dramatically increase the total fees of private school much like what has been seen with the universities.
1. Litmus tests like Universities pass to make sure their graduates can write, and will make more than $40k a year after spending over $100k on a degree?
2. Any time you increase gov funding of an educational establishment, costs rise. But, kids also want Wifi and lazy rivers. Private kid parents at least pay for that shite, for their kid.
Parents should be able to send their kids wherever they want, at least in their parish. You're ignoring that 200 black families pulling their kids out of Istrouma, for instance, means they'd have to change administration and teachers, in order to bring kids back. That is most of the public policy point, to effect change to improve the functioning of the school by change enforced by financial penalties.
Cause G-d knows, Louisiana has been doing awesome in public schools since I showed up 30 years ago. All the improvement! Edukcation!
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