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Actual pre-election data instead of opinion polls.

Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:14 am
Posted by alpinetiger
Salt Lake City
Member since Apr 2017
5864 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:14 am
I don't know how much stock to put into tracking ballot requests like this, but it apparently has been predictive in many past elections. Interesting perspective:

Larry Schweikart - Twitter

Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67488 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:19 am to
Congrats Larry, no one gives a shite what you do and despite what you think of yourself, you're not that important.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79136 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:20 am to
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31) I have asked a historical genius on this kind of data, "Can you think of ANY time in American electoral history where one party gained four to six senate seats and lost the House." None


Seems very plausible we could lose the house due to quality candidates. If GOP is up from 2016 numbers, things are looking good nationwide
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
59935 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:20 am to
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Larry Schweikart - Twitter


THIS ^^^^^^^ is good info.
Posted by ALTiger
Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
3031 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:21 am to
Cliffs? At work, twitter is blocked.
Posted by Captain Ron
Location: Ted's
Member since Dec 2012
4340 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:23 am to
His methodology is sound.

Republicans STACKED
DemoKKKrats frickED
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
17995 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:24 am to
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Cliffs? At work, twitter is blocked.


Despite being midterms and not a presidential election, GOP ballot requests are exceeding 2016 numbers in a lot of places.

Dem ballot numbers are below 2016 and below 2014 midterms.

Unprecedented for the most part.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54210 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:25 am to
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Congrats Larry, no one gives a shite what you do and despite what you think of yourself, you're not that important.



This doesn't sound like you. The guy made a compelling argument for the Rs. Probably the best I've seen so far.
Posted by SidewalkDawg
Chair
Member since Nov 2012
9820 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:27 am to
This certainly gives me that Pre-November 2016 feeling.
Posted by ScottFowler
NE Ohio
Member since Sep 2012
4146 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:32 am to
Repubs coming in stronger than 2016 makes sense when you think about how many conservative votes either did not vote or voted third party or even Dem rather than the unknown Trump.
Now that he has a track record more inline with what traditional Repub voters wish for, the Repubs should get a push in the midterms.
Posted by AuburnTigers
Member since Aug 2013
6952 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:34 am to
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Cliffs? At work, twitter is blocked.
Early voting numbers are up for Reps, down for Dems across the board. Reps are over performing 2016 numbers which is not suppose to happen

Dems bout to lose ground in Senate and whiff on house
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
34086 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:38 am to
throwing bricks thru plate glass, and vandalizing cars is more fun than voting
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81756 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:41 am to
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Early voting numbers are up for Reps, down for Dems across the board. Reps are over performing 2016 numbers which is not suppose to happen 

Dems bout to lose ground in Senate and whiff on house





And indies have surprisingly low interest.

This kind of data correctly correlated with the mild Trump upsets in FL and NC and with Crooked Hillary holding serve in NV last cycle.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54210 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:46 am to
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Dems bout to lose ground in Senate and whiff on house



It does make theoretical sense that if a senate seat is picked up in a state, then also should a rep's seat be picked up if a dem currently holds that seat.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28356 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:50 am to
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Repubs coming in stronger than 2016 makes sense when you think about how many conservative votes either did not vote or voted third party or even Dem rather than the unknown Trump.
Now that he has a track record more inline with what traditional Repub voters wish for, the Repubs should get a push in the midterms.


This could very well be true. We have to remember, a lot of Republicans were scared of the "unknown" in Trump. 2 years later he hasn't destroyed the world (as Dems have been predicting on a daily basis). Plus, Dems haven't changed their message AT ALL since 2016. Their only message remains "we hate Donald Trump".

Now, to be fair, Trump is not running in 2018. But, the Democrats are running "against him" in the midterms. I can't imagine many people that voted FOR Trump are changing their votes. But I do think there is a % (don't know how big) of people who either voted against him or just didn't vote who are changing their opinions. And the Kavanaugh hearing was a 3 week soap opera of just how crazy Democrats are.

Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68261 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:51 am to
Dems have not had a great track record of turning out for midterms.
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
17480 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:51 am to
Cliffs:

More Republicans returned absentee ballots than Dems, right in the heat of the Kav bullshite....hence, Dems are playing catch up with the clock running out.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35239 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:52 am to
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I don't know how much stock to put into tracking ballot requests like this, but it apparently has been predictive in many past elections. Interesting perspective:
I don’t think it’s very accurate at all actually, although it may be more useful as it becomes easier to track and monitor, compare to previous election data, and control for any sampling biases.

The other is that party registration is not as correlated with party identification as one might suspect, plus the temporal, candidate, and issue specific preferences that might impact the results.

For example, I believe Louisiana has more registered Ds than Rs, but it’s far redder than other states that have more Rs than Ds.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67488 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:55 am to
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This doesn't sound like you

Under normal circumstances you'd be right.

quote:

The guy made a compelling argument for the Rs

I've been consistent saying the Reps will gain seats in both houses but this guy is a self-absorbed shithead.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35239 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:59 am to
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Dems have not had a great track record of turning out for midterms.
In general though, factors that contribute to turnout tends to benefit the minority party in midterms than it otherwise would.

It does provide a nice balance in many ways, since gridlock is one major roadblock to government meddling, which is too prevalent in both parties.
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