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re: ABC: Ukraine Agrees to Terms of US Peace Deal
Posted on 11/25/25 at 8:34 am to Sassafrasology
Posted on 11/25/25 at 8:34 am to Sassafrasology
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The problem right now is you have these U.S. intelligence agencies like the CIA who are not accountable when their carefully implemented plans fail.
Just wait. The resident drones will be here soon to deny that Ukraine has long served as a proving ground for the most corrupted and amoral elements in our nation’s diplomatic and natural security apparatus.
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 8:37 am to Toomer Deplorable
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Just wait. The resident drones will be here soon to deny that Ukraine has long served as a proving ground for the most corrupted and amoral elements in our nation’s diplomatic and natural security apparatus.
The issue here is the Zelensky election
To continue this argument you have to do this weird pivot where the IC ousted their own puppet for no reason to install someone who ran counter to the IC talking points, only to have Russia randomly invade a few years later and then create another IC talking point
Posted on 11/25/25 at 8:40 am to Wednesday
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Prayers to God that this works.
It is time to end the bloodshed
It is time to end the Uniparty MIC grift
No kidding Weds.
Sadly, perhaps the biggest obstacles to extracting the U.S. from these quagmires will come from the neocons in the GOPe.
Posted on 11/25/25 at 8:48 am to Wednesday
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The CIA is the party actually to blame for this pointless war
Wherever there is moral posturing by the United States on a geopolitical hotspot, you invariably will find CIA skullduggery.
Posted on 11/25/25 at 8:50 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Or alternately you have to assert that elections can sometimes surprise the IC, as was the case in Ukraine, 2010 and 2019.
To continue this argument you have to do this weird pivot where the IC ousted their own puppet for no reason to install someone who ran counter to the IC talking points
Zelenskyy's problem was his unprecedented inexperience which was the basis of Trump's foreboding phone conversation, and also was basis for the ease of the IC reestablishing itself in manipulating Ukraine's government.
Posted on 11/25/25 at 8:52 am to TBoy
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The reporting doesn’t list the details. However, since this deal has come out of meetings between the US and Ukraine, the terms should be somewhat different than the proposal floated last week.
Keep hope alive a-hole.
Posted on 11/25/25 at 8:54 am to Jbird
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The only question that remains: will Russia likewise agree to it? Color me skeptical.
Didn't they already agree in principal?
If we've learned anything from this mess, it should be that we can not fully trust Ukraine any more than we can trust Russia.
Millions of lives lost over there. For a conflict that has essentially been decided for over two years. And for what? US Politicians laundering money through Ukraine into their own bank accounts- same shite that's been happening since Barry Soerto was prez. Same thing they literally impeached Trump for exposing.
Posted on 11/25/25 at 8:55 am to TigerAxeOK
quote:Which is why idgaf if they both bleed out.
If we've learned anything from this mess, it should be that we can not fully trust Ukraine any more than we can trust Russia.
Posted on 11/25/25 at 8:57 am to Wednesday
quote:Amen. Huge win for everyone if it holds.
Prayers to God that this works.
It is time to end the bloodshed
It is time to end the Uniparty MIC grift
Posted on 11/25/25 at 8:58 am to SlowFlowPro
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The issue here is the Zelensky election
To continue this argument you have to do this weird pivot where the IC ousted their own puppet for no reason to install someone who ran counter to the IC talking points, only to have Russia randomly invade a few years later and then create another IC talking point
bullshite
You apparently do not know who Catherine Herridge is from your posts yesterday so you have no credibility about anything.
Posted on 11/25/25 at 8:58 am to Jbird
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Which is why idgaf if they both bleed out.
Yup. It would be great if there were peace in Ukraine, but that's not our concern. I voted for President Trump to remove American participation in the war.
Posted on 11/25/25 at 9:01 am to NC_Tigah
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Zelenskyy's problem was his unprecedented inexperience which was the basis of Trump's foreboding phone conversation, and also was basis for the ease of the IC reestablishing itself in manipulating Ukraine's government.
The CIA has been operating in the Ukraine continuously since at least 2015:
Exclusive: Secret CIA training program in Ukraine helped Kyiv prepare for Russian invasion..
Posted on 11/25/25 at 9:02 am to VoxDawg
Greatest President of All Time.
Posted on 11/25/25 at 9:02 am to SDVTiger
quote:WRONG PRESIDENT TO END IT!!!
VOAT Pres
Ending Ukraine war can be taken off the idiots melt list
It wasnt day 1 tho so there!!- LowTSoy
IT WAS BIDEN WHO DID ALL THE HARD WORK!!!!
OMG WE HATE PEACE NOW!!
Posted on 11/25/25 at 9:03 am to RohanGonzales
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bullshite
You apparently do not know who Catherine Herridge is
What does this have to do with z ousting the purported CIA puppet?
That conspiracy theory puts another CIA puppet in charge of Ukraine. Zelensky ousted that puppet. It broke the chain of the purported CIA influence which should, at the least, stop the conspiracy theory as of that election
The problem is there are a lot of people who think z was elected in 2014 after maidan.
Posted on 11/25/25 at 9:06 am to SlowFlowPro
Didn't the CIA replace multiple leaders in South Vietnam during the playtime from post WW2 until the 70s?
Posted on 11/25/25 at 9:08 am to Jbird
Well that's where I said you had to get into this weird pivot where the person who was doing their bidding got replaced with someone who was doing the opposite and no one can exactly explain why other than defaulting to some vague reference to conspiracies and past unrelated bad behavior
Posted on 11/25/25 at 9:17 am to VoxDawg
Money Laundering spigot #1437 shut off
Posted on 11/25/25 at 9:18 am to VoxDawg
Does Ukraine know they agreed to a peace deal?
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In a post on X earlier this morning, Zelensky said: “Following the meetings in Geneva, we see many prospects that can make the path to peace real. There are solid results, and much work still lies ahead.”
Posted on 11/25/25 at 9:26 am to VoxDawg
1. This is good news.
2. Not to rain on the parade because it is good news but it means nothing if Russia doesn’t agree.
2. Not to rain on the parade because it is good news but it means nothing if Russia doesn’t agree.
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