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re: A THIRD prosecutor just resigned from stone case
Posted on 2/11/20 at 4:54 pm to boosiebadazz
Posted on 2/11/20 at 4:54 pm to boosiebadazz
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don’t come crying to me when President AOC is personally directing her AG which oil company CEOs to indict.
that's literally in the job description of President
deference to agencies and bureaucrats is one of the most insane and anti-democratic aspects of American law
why are we pretending that Trump is not the head of the executive branch?
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Posted on 2/11/20 at 4:55 pm to SCLibertarian
That’s all fair rationale.
My problem is the President putting his thumb on the scale of an ongoing prosecution.
Do you not see how that can open Pandora’s box?
My problem is the President putting his thumb on the scale of an ongoing prosecution.
Do you not see how that can open Pandora’s box?
Posted on 2/11/20 at 4:56 pm to boosiebadazz
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My problem is the President putting his thumb on the scale of an ongoing prosecution.
at least he has political ramifications for doing so
what ramifications do the prosecutors have from the public they allegedly serve?
Posted on 2/11/20 at 4:56 pm to SlowFlowPro
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why are we pretending that Trump is not the head of the executive branch?
Because no person can be a judge in one's own case & these are the guys responsible for holding the president to the law.
And you were right. He's showing some loyalty here.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 4:58 pm to SlowFlowPro
He is and he gets to appoint his AG that shares his values and policy preferences and serves at his pleasure.
But I want the Chinese fire wall between DOJ and the White House.
But I want the Chinese fire wall between DOJ and the White House.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 4:58 pm to boosiebadazz
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Do you not see how that can open Pandora’s box?
Not really.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 4:59 pm to TigerDoc
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Because no person can be a judge in one's own case
Trump wasn't on trial
you should know this by now, considering he's already faced his Constitutional "judge" in the Senate AND a special prosecutor. both, i might add, went nowhere
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And you were right. He's showing some loyalty here.
i'm still waiting on that Manafort pardon
Posted on 2/11/20 at 4:59 pm to boosiebadazz
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My problem is the President putting his thumb on the scale of an ongoing prosecution.
How is a freaking tweet putting his thumb on the scale of an ongoing prosecution??
That logic is ridiculously stupid
Posted on 2/11/20 at 5:01 pm to Bunyan
If we’re going to continue with the charade that the 2 am tweet had nothing to do with the 9 am about face from DOJ then in about. It’s disingenuous and absurd.
We can have a discussion over whether it’s proper or not, but it’s insulting to suggest with a straight face it didn’t happen.
We can have a discussion over whether it’s proper or not, but it’s insulting to suggest with a straight face it didn’t happen.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 5:01 pm to SlowFlowPro
Did the attorneys lie to their bosses at the DOJ in regards to the sentencing recommendations?
Posted on 2/11/20 at 5:01 pm to boosiebadazz
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But you guys are going to be sorry you abandoned all principle for a cult of personality when the next person or the person after next is someone with which you disagree.
Without a hint of irony. Well done.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 5:01 pm to boosiebadazz
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But I want the Chinese fire wall between DOJ and the White House.
then you need to re-write the Constitution and make the bureaucracy an actual branch and not under the Executive
this seeps into non-criminal stuff, too. people keep talking about how the President is too powerful (always when a non-DEM is in office) now, and that we don't have "co-equal branches", but that's only because Congress chose to give this power to the Executive in how they wrote their laws
if Congress wants to take power back they just have to write actual laws with regulations and not defer to agencies under the President
Posted on 2/11/20 at 5:01 pm to Scruffy
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Did the attorneys lie to their bosses at the DOJ in regards to the sentencing recommendations?
no idea
Posted on 2/11/20 at 5:02 pm to the808bass
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Without a hint of irony. Well done.
reminds me of the same platitudes when Cocaine Mitch removed the filabuster for the USSC picks
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“You’ll regret this, and you may regret this a lot sooner than you think."
Posted on 2/11/20 at 5:03 pm to Bunyan
quote:He can't even defend it using the President AOC hypothetical he weakly threw out to make his point.
How is a freaking tweet putting his thumb on the scale of an ongoing prosecution??
That logic is ridiculously stupid
Hypo: President AOC has a coup attempt and her BFF ginger BF is raided @ dawn by gunpoint because the R's set it all up to make her and her friends/admin be Russian agents.
Down the road @ sentencing R hack lawyers lie about sentencing, use their power to take revenge derived from pure hate of President AOC; and max it up to 7-10 years,
President AOC tweets it is unfair and she should also be punished/ impeached along with her AG Weissmann?
Posted on 2/11/20 at 5:03 pm to TigerDoc
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When you acquit an autocrat for abusing power, he continues to abuse power and then he abuses power further
Good Lord you are truly pathetic
Posted on 2/11/20 at 5:03 pm to Scruffy
Another question is what is the typical recommended sentencing for a similar case?
Posted on 2/11/20 at 5:03 pm to boosiebadazz
quote:Did you argue this much in favor for or against Comey, Brennan, and Clinton getting off without repercussions?
If we’re going to continue with the charade that the 2 am tweet had nothing to do with the 9 am about face from DOJ then in about. It’s disingenuous and absurd.
Hell, Stone is still getting 3-4 years.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 5:03 pm to boosiebadazz
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The President just intervened...
Lie.
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to overrule career prosecutors to get a reduced sentence recommendation for his longtime friend
Those "career prosecutors" lied to their superiors. They also inexplicably went beyond the sentencing recommendation scope to the extreeme. Together those can be fireable offenses and clear examples of insubordination.
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who was convicted of lying to Congress regarding his activities on behalf of said President.
Another lie.
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