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re: A Push for More Organ Transplants Is Putting Donors at Risk

Posted on 7/25/25 at 9:00 am to
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103115 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 9:00 am to
The Meaning Of Life chapter 35… live organ donation.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59034 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 9:02 am to
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they'll just start harvesting your organs.


Some local governments already steal dead bodies and sell them to medical schools instead of notifying family to claim the bodies.
Posted by idsrdum
Member since Jan 2017
602 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 9:03 am to
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I'm going to remove "organ donor" from my license

FYI - if you have been an organ donor in multiple states you will need to remove yourself from each state in which you registered.
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
26011 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 9:08 am to
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To say there isn’t pressure applied on the donors family to “wrap things up” is a bit naive.


That's fair and all, but i still want to be frickING DEAD before they take my stuff. It's not that hard to understand.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20310 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 9:46 am to
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That's fair and all, but i still want to be frickING DEAD before they take my stuff. It's not that hard to understand.

I’m with you and I get it completely.

Once I became acquainted with the process I changed my status for awhile because of that very reason.

Frankly I never want my medical provider to have different goals than what’s in my best interest and knowing many of them they are very “practical”when it comes to things like what the “best” outcome is when someone has a low perceived probability of recovery at a given point.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170594 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 9:48 am to
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Maybe this is a hoax like you think Trump’s assassination attempt was a hoax

What the frick did this add to the discussion?
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
35404 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 9:50 am to
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Though Ms. Hawkins’s case is an extreme example of what can go wrong, a New York Times examination revealed a pattern of rushed decision-making that has prioritized the need for more organs over the safety of potential donors.

My daughter-in-law's brother tragically took his life this year. He was out in the middle of nowhere where no one could have possibly heard the shot but it just so happened that two guys were passing through the area and did hear it and found him and called EMS.

This guy put a hollow point. 45 through his dome but was still barely clinging to life and they life-flighted him to a big hospital to put him on life support just long enough to beg the family to donate his organs. They told his sister that they would cover his medical expenses if she agreed, but their culture and belief is that you are laid to rest as intact as possible.

She refused, and is now stuck with a $72,000 bill. Messed up situation and the doctors even made some thinly veiled racist comments to her, but it is what it is. Had a room full of white doctors trying to tell a rez-born Lakota that they know her culture better than she does. Pretty infuriating. They want your organs, period. I used to be an organ/tissue donor but I heard too many shady stories and opted out upon my last license renewal.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170594 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 9:53 am to
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She refused, and is now stuck with a $72,000 bill

I wouldn't be paying a penny of that ever
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
19407 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 10:01 am to
If we can bioengineer anything you’d think the research could be on stem cells to repair a heart, kidney, liver, etc. some kind of way.
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
7305 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 10:11 am to
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Everyone should take a moment out of their day and bring a lunch to your friendly neighborhood mortician and ask them what bodies look like when they come back from their states organ procurement company.


A good friend of mine is a funeral home director. He has told me stories of what those bodies look like. He has had to put PVC pipe in bodies to rebuild structure because the major large bones such as the leg bones were removed. He told me that the bodies that have gone through organ donation look like they were hacked through like cheap cuts of meat.

He said killed game that's been dressed looks better than some of these peoples remains. He also told me that they have been harvesting organs from live people for a while now. Usually they put you in a medically induced coma and doped up on morphine before they start harvesting your organs after they have confirmed consent or that you are a donor and the doctors sign off on it.

Anything is fair game if it's in good condition. Eyes, Bones, heart, kidneys, etc..
This post was edited on 7/25/25 at 10:14 am
Posted by Rex Feral
Member since Jan 2014
15945 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 10:15 am to
And that's why I'm not an organ donor.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78038 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 10:15 am to
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People across the United States have endured rushed or premature attempts to remove their organs. Some were gasping, crying or showing other signs of life.

quote:

CUSTOMER: Here's one.

CART MASTER: Nine pence.

DEAD PERSON: I'm not dead!

CART MASTER: What?

CUSTOMER: Nothing. Here's your nine pence.

DEAD PERSON: I'm not dead!

CART MASTER: 'Ere. He says he's not dead!

CUSTOMER: Yes, he is.

DEAD PERSON: I'm not!

CART MASTER: He isn't?

CUSTOMER: Well, he will be soon. He's very ill.

DEAD PERSON: I'm getting better!

CUSTOMER: No, you're not. You'll be stone dead in a moment.

CART MASTER: Oh, I can't take him like that. It's against regulations.

DEAD PERSON: I don't want to go on the cart!

CUSTOMER: Oh, don't be such a baby.

CART MASTER: I can't take him.

DEAD PERSON: I feel fine!

CUSTOMER: Well, do us a favor.

CART MASTER: I can't.

CUSTOMER: Well, can you hang around a couple of minutes? He won't be long.

CART MASTER: No, I've got to go to the Robinsons'. They've lost nine today


Posted by LARancher1991
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2015
2055 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 10:31 am to
Stories like these have been around since organ transplants became a thing. It's either they will take your organs while you are still alive or they won't try to save your life and let you die if you are an organ donor. Just more conspiracy BS
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
35404 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 10:50 am to
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I wouldn't be paying a penny of that ever

We helped her lawyer up to fight it. The only choice she had in the entire matter was to choose whether or not to donate his organs, and to decide when to pull the plug.

The rest is between her departed brother and the hospital. Bro seriously had a .45 slug pass clean through his head. He wasn't surviving that. It's miraculous, being where he was found, that he even lived long enough for EMTs and then heliflight to get there.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59034 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 10:54 am to
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I wouldn't be paying a penny of that ever


No way. Legally, I don’t see how she’s be financially responsible for it.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59034 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 10:55 am to
Well that’s really tragic and I’m sorry her family had to experience that.
Posted by pbro62
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2016
15171 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 10:56 am to
Go away
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
12585 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 11:11 am to
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In New Mexico, a woman was subjected to days of preparation for donation, even after her family said that she seemed to be regaining consciousness, which she eventually did. In Florida, a man cried and bit on his breathing tube but was still withdrawn from life support. In West Virginia, doctors were appalled when coordinators asked a paralyzed man coming off sedatives in an operating room for consent to remove his organs.

Stories like these have


been fabricated.

Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
12585 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 11:14 am to
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Faye Johnson, raced to the hospital from her job at a car dealership. Doctors said Ms. Hawkins would never again breathe on her own and gave her mother 72 hours to decide whether to move her to a nursing home or withdraw life support


Absolute bullshite. The hospital makes money on ventilator patients for a lot longer time than 72 hours. They would hold onto that until the maximum payment time was reached before even looking for future placement.
This post was edited on 7/25/25 at 11:21 am
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
12585 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 11:18 am to
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She refused, and is now stuck with a $72,000 bill.

Why would his sister be liable for his bill?
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