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re: A number of J6 criminals pardoned by Trump have since committed other crimes. I'm shocked
Posted on 2/16/26 at 8:04 am to Powerman
Posted on 2/16/26 at 8:04 am to Powerman
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A number of J6 criminals pardoned by Trump have since committed other crimes.
Then they should be arrested and punished.
However, that does not excuse the fact that your government imprisoned people for walking through doors held open by capitol police, and then many held without charges and without bail for up to a year.
But, you keep rationalizing your approval of a corrupt government.
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Posted on 2/16/26 at 8:06 am to Powerman
I’m sure a sizable percentage of J6ers are garbage people but that doesn’t change the fact that they were overcharged/over sentenced for the Jan 6th stuff.
Posted on 2/16/26 at 8:25 am to Powerman
Well, if they had acted like actual decent investigators and not thrown a dragnet to arrest and convict anyone who dared to just care enough to be around then maybe a giant, all inclusive pardon wouldn’t have been necessary. But no…… they needed a grandstand that dragged in so many and then went after ridiculous charges. And shocker, THEY made the situation that necessitated a grandstand reaction. But par for the course. Start the crap and then react to the reaction.
Posted on 2/16/26 at 8:28 am to Powerman
I don't think anyone here has an issue with people being charged with real crimes.
This post was edited on 2/16/26 at 8:29 am
Posted on 2/16/26 at 8:33 am to Powerman
quote:How many of them rot in jail for 4 years without trial?
Violent protestors get arrested all the time
Posted on 2/16/26 at 9:07 am to Powerman
There is a difference in LAWFUL prosecutions and those that are manufactured UNLAWFUL prosecutions.
January 6th was all coordinated. There is a reason Nancy would not allow the National Guard protection. The interruption was needed for the steal
January 6th was all coordinated. There is a reason Nancy would not allow the National Guard protection. The interruption was needed for the steal
Posted on 2/16/26 at 9:09 am to Powerman
Crew
Posted on 2/16/26 at 9:23 am to Powerman
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If we rant about judges being too lenient on criminals who then commit other crimes, I don't see why we can't have the same criticism for these pardons
1,270 people were convicted for Jan 6 crimes. 33 have reoffended. Only 4 of those were after their pardon; the others had already served the time from their convictions.
4 people is 0.3% of the 1,270 total. The normal incarceration rate for people in the US is 0.7%. Normal recidivism for people released from jail or prison is 60% to 70%. The normal recidivism rate for people who have been pardoned is 33.2%. So, Jan 6 offenders are well below all normal incarceration rates.
So what is the point? Are you complaining that Jan 6 prisoners were not given life sentences to ensure they never commit another crime? Are you arguing for political imprisonment?
Posted on 2/16/26 at 9:25 am to Powerman
Over 5 year, 33 out of about 1,600 he pardoned? How do you think that compares to the general recidivism rate?
Posted on 2/16/26 at 9:32 am to Jbird
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Says the stupid frick typically blowing 4dummies in her free the prisoners threads.
Well he did say he had a girl friend!
Posted on 2/16/26 at 9:33 am to Gifman
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You’ve been spinning out hard in the last week.
He's always been a melty little fella.
Posted on 2/16/26 at 9:35 am to Powerman
LOL
Votes for Progressives that put judges in that release criminals daily. Also wants open borders with no ICE rounding up violent felons to get them out. Is enraged at this.
Votes for Progressives that put judges in that release criminals daily. Also wants open borders with no ICE rounding up violent felons to get them out. Is enraged at this.
Posted on 2/16/26 at 9:50 am to Powerman
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Violent protestors get arrested all the time
what percentage? There have been 10s of thousands of "protesters" = INSURRECTIONISTs by the DEM definition of interfering with an official government function, including the use of intimidation and violent attack.
There should be prisons FULL of purple haired know-nothings by now.
You got 5 - and none of them working in concert with other rioters - none of them directed by an evil political party - none of them with allegiance to other countries.
Posted on 2/16/26 at 9:59 am to Powerman
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Powerman
Let me explain this to you like you're 5.
33 out of 3,000+ is a 1% rate of recidivism. 1%.
Look at the recidivism rate of people locked up and either released or pardoned by democrats during the 2020 "Summer of Love" and get back to us.
1% recidivism is actually likely the biggest compliment you can pay this crowd, though you think it's a "gotcha".
Posted on 2/16/26 at 10:26 am to Powerman
33 confidential human sources. This is a Christopher Wray problem.
Posted on 2/16/26 at 10:38 am to Powerman
What is your point for bringing this up? Spit it out. What overall assertion are you trying to make?
If it is true that they commited crimes, does that reverse Pelosi rejecting the NG that Trump offered?
Does this reverse Capitol police calmly and orderly escorting people into the building?
Does this reverse that there were known, paid agitators in the crowd? That some were govt agents?
Does this reverse Ray Epps?
Does this reverse that these people were held for years in overly penal conditions and not allowed to use exculpatory evidence in their cases?
Does this explain why no one from the govt officially examined and acted on the thousands of hours of video evidence from 2020 to 2024?
Does this explain Trump telling the people to act peacefully?
Does this explain Pelosi's camera crew?
Does this explain the repeated, breathless lies from the entire left about Sicknick and how many other Capitol officers lost their lives that day? Have any of those people recanted their lies?
Does this explain the constant lawfare against Trump under the pretense that he tried to overthrow the govt? Have any of those liberals recanted?
Does this explain the farcical congressional "hearings" that were documented by an entertainment producer?
Why would you bring up this essentially non story that might only be halfway true instead of being upset about the truth of the situation which is far, far more sinister and seditious? The incoming regime basically took over the govt through illegitimate means and we're just now on the cusp of getting official, verified evidence. What do you think should be the repercussions of that? THAT is what you should be focused on, not this idiotic and childish whataboutism
If it is true that they commited crimes, does that reverse Pelosi rejecting the NG that Trump offered?
Does this reverse Capitol police calmly and orderly escorting people into the building?
Does this reverse that there were known, paid agitators in the crowd? That some were govt agents?
Does this reverse Ray Epps?
Does this reverse that these people were held for years in overly penal conditions and not allowed to use exculpatory evidence in their cases?
Does this explain why no one from the govt officially examined and acted on the thousands of hours of video evidence from 2020 to 2024?
Does this explain Trump telling the people to act peacefully?
Does this explain Pelosi's camera crew?
Does this explain the repeated, breathless lies from the entire left about Sicknick and how many other Capitol officers lost their lives that day? Have any of those people recanted their lies?
Does this explain the constant lawfare against Trump under the pretense that he tried to overthrow the govt? Have any of those liberals recanted?
Does this explain the farcical congressional "hearings" that were documented by an entertainment producer?
Why would you bring up this essentially non story that might only be halfway true instead of being upset about the truth of the situation which is far, far more sinister and seditious? The incoming regime basically took over the govt through illegitimate means and we're just now on the cusp of getting official, verified evidence. What do you think should be the repercussions of that? THAT is what you should be focused on, not this idiotic and childish whataboutism
Posted on 2/16/26 at 10:43 am to Powerman
Doesn't really surprise me that there were some loons in the bunch
Posted on 2/16/26 at 11:39 am to Powerman
Fine by me.
However, a little over 2% isn't much higher than the national average (that's reported). Put the repeat offenders under the jail for all I care but your hyperbolic gotcha doesn't really move the needle for me.
However, a little over 2% isn't much higher than the national average (that's reported). Put the repeat offenders under the jail for all I care but your hyperbolic gotcha doesn't really move the needle for me.
Posted on 2/16/26 at 11:40 am to the808bass
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Four pardoned insurrectionists have allegedly reoffended since receiving their pardons.
Wait. What? I thought it was 33? What’s going on here?
Oof, dropped down to less than .3%
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