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re: A homeschool schism: The fallout from Well-Trained Mind’s leftward turn
Posted on 2/3/26 at 2:40 pm to conservativewifeymom
Posted on 2/3/26 at 2:40 pm to conservativewifeymom
I just wonder if most (I did not say all) homeschooled kids get a rigorous science and math education. You need labs and tubes and generators and big-arse computers, I dunno if most homeschool famiilies can afford that and don't they should have to if they live in a good school district.
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Posted on 2/3/26 at 2:41 pm to Eurocat
Oh and to clarify, I am not against homeschooling at all, just saying what my concerns would be.
Posted on 2/3/26 at 2:43 pm to conservativewifeymom
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My only concern with the Good and the Beautiful has been any Mormon influences from its LDS creators. So far, reviews from mainstream Christian friends using it say that it does a good job staying focused on topic and not doctrine.
Havent seen anything wrong with it and we have used everything from kindergarten to 5th grade over the last 5 years.
Posted on 2/3/26 at 2:46 pm to Eurocat
You dont need any of that for rigorous math courses. Science has tons of home experiments you can do that go with courses. None of the schools in our area have any big fancy labs for science and math. The closest I am aware of is video editing labs or broadcast labs where there are programs for videography, journalism, etc.
Posted on 2/3/26 at 2:47 pm to conservativewifeymom
Um, yes you can. I never heard of them.
Posted on 2/3/26 at 2:47 pm to Eurocat
That's a legitimate concern and one that homeschooling families are addressing rather creatively.
Some homeschooled kids take advantage of dual-enrollment opportunities at the local community college to take classes that fulfill both high school requirements AND give them college credits.
Homeschooling families get together and have a parent teach a particular subject, usually a parent with a degree or training in, say, biology, or algebra, or whatever. The families can share in the costs for any special lab equipment or materials (there are many providers out there who know that the homeschooling market can be quite lucrative).
There are also homeschool co-ops/tutorials where homeschoolers can take one class or many classes taught by teachers who are current or former homeschooling parents and who, again, have degrees/training in a particular subject. Class sizes are very small and, financially, parents can benefit through economies of scale.
Some homeschooled kids take advantage of dual-enrollment opportunities at the local community college to take classes that fulfill both high school requirements AND give them college credits.
Homeschooling families get together and have a parent teach a particular subject, usually a parent with a degree or training in, say, biology, or algebra, or whatever. The families can share in the costs for any special lab equipment or materials (there are many providers out there who know that the homeschooling market can be quite lucrative).
There are also homeschool co-ops/tutorials where homeschoolers can take one class or many classes taught by teachers who are current or former homeschooling parents and who, again, have degrees/training in a particular subject. Class sizes are very small and, financially, parents can benefit through economies of scale.
Posted on 2/3/26 at 2:49 pm to Bass Tiger
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If you are lazy with it, you might as well put your kids back in the Cultural Marxist farm system.
Years ago I put my kids in a small private school with three campuses around NOLA - Lake Castle. It was fairly cheap, and they taught patriotism and western civilization history. There was zero woke. You can find good options without having to home school.
Posted on 2/3/26 at 2:50 pm to Bass Tiger
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Posted on 2/3/26 at 2:50 pm to conservativewifeymom
Most people I know that homeschool use Classical Conversations. Classical Christian Education in general is exploding.
This post was edited on 2/3/26 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 2/3/26 at 2:51 pm to Penrod
And that is the beauty of school choice, a very American concept and freedom that leftists are fighting hard to take away because they need to brainwash the masses and insure plenty of future commie voters.
Posted on 2/3/26 at 2:52 pm to Eurocat
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To me it just seems simpler to enroll the kids in a good private (possibly religious) school.
They have been infiltrated as well.
The most ardent “liberal” that I know teaches at an all girls Catholic school.
She has been there for decades and has a LOT of influence over how the curriculum is being taught.
Never forget, our very own 4chubbies is a devout Catholic.
Do you think that she spewed leftist nonsense to her students?
I have no doubt that she did.
Posted on 2/3/26 at 2:54 pm to conservativewifeymom
Hey listen, good on ya, I got nothing against it. I just doubt the "hard science" subjects will be taught to a level that will lead to Regeneron scholarships, become a Davidson fellow and get into someplace like Cal Tech or MIT. But nothing would delight me more than to wrong on this, honestly! Getting a good project done can take hundreds of hours for the kid and less but close to that for the "volunteer", how many people would sign up for that, especially if they have a different full time job? But again, good luck!
Posted on 2/3/26 at 2:54 pm to jimmy the leg
And that is why, ultimately, the responsibility rests with the parents. Never stop overseeing your child's education, know what they are being taught and who the teachers are, and make your voice heard, especially if you're paying thousands of dollars to a private school. And, fwiw, never put your kid into a school run by Jesuits.
Posted on 2/3/26 at 2:59 pm to Eurocat
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I just wonder if most (I did not say all) homeschooled kids get a rigorous science and math education
It's a valid point. Here in Baton Rouge when I was home schooling, I recognized that I could handle most things, including math, but could not adequately teach science after 8th grade. What most of us did was arrange a group class taught by a grad student, a qualified parent, or a private school teacher for our high school students. I also sent one of my students who was struggling with writing to take a class with a journalism instructor.
I don't know how much research people do now, but before I started and for the first few years, I did a lot of research and took a class on how to teach phonics. Many of my friends did several things like that. I remember The Well Trained Mind book; I read it and found it interesting. I suspect some curriculum writers back in the 80's and 90's wrote for the market they were targeting (mostly Christian conservatives) but didn't share those beliefs.
Posted on 2/3/26 at 3:14 pm to Carolhdg
The reason I write this is that by sheer coincidence literally today I went out for a tomato soup and grilled cheese at a diner and read a newspaper that I normally don't read and it had a list of this year Regeneron finalists. These are the kind of kids that are going to be running things and they all go to public high schools here in the suburbs. It is true that some of the work is done in alliance with local colleges, but they are more of a "distant advisor" role as far as I understand. I am impressed with the work,
In fact the list is quite long but so as not to make this too long, here are just the top few finalists - It's amazing that most of this was done when the kids were 16 and 17 years old.
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The students researched a variety of topics, from the use of artificial intelligence to categorizing wildfire origins, attitudes toward the war in Ukraine and the neurobiology of suicide. Regeneron scholars typically spend weeks or months on their projects, working closely with mentors who guide their research. Projects can often take more than a year. The Regeneron Science Talent Search is a proving ground for future scientific genius. The prestigious competition dates back to 1942, when it was known as the Westinghouse Science Talent Search. More recently, it was sponsored by Intel until 2016. Over its 83-year history, the competition has produced semifinalists and finalists who have gone on to become Nobel Prize winners (13), National Medal of Science recipients (11), and MacArthur fellows (20).
Senior Ema Wen did research on Pancreatic Cancer Passionate Long Island senior selected as Regeneron finalist for pancreatic cancer research. Project Title: AUM-302, A Novel Triple PIM/PI3K/mTOR Inhibitor, Offers Promising Potential in Reducing the Growth of Pancreatic Ductal Adenocarcinoma Spheroids and Organoids
At Great Neck South, senior Alexander Xu, 17, was among the students recognized for his research. A volunteer EMT, his project involved a new way to search radiology reports. He developed his research over the summer while working in a lab at the Albert Einstein College of Medicine. “To get this award, people spent their summer working in labs, and that includes reading a lot of literature each day and really critically thinking about what they are reading and how they can improve on what they read.”
Jolene Cao Smithtown High School East, Saint James, NY Project Title: Synthesis of Stable and Magnetically Responsive Magnetite/Cesium Lead Halide Perovskite Quantum Dots for Programmable Light Polarization
Ishana Chadha Commack High School, Commack, NY Project Title: Understanding Neuronal Migration in Brain Development: The Role of Oligophrenin1 in Modulating Radial Migration of Pyramidal Neurons by Interaction With Pacsin2
Melody Heeju Hong General Douglas MacArthur High School, Levittown, NY Project Title: A Bayesian Exploration Into More Flexible trans Methylation Quantitative Trait Locus Mapping
Sandeep Sawhney Herricks High School, New Hyde Park, NY Project Title: Gallium-Mediated DNA Tensegrity Triangle-Based Crystals: A Novel Prototype Facilitating Gallium Cancer Therapy
Johnathan Ahdout John L. Miller Great Neck North High School, NY
Project Title: Contextualizing Data-Sparse QSPR Property Prediction With Categorical Representations Built from Variational Autoencoders
Aafia Ahmed Elmont Memorial High School, NY Project Title: JAK2/STAT3 Signaling Pathway Mediates Methylmercury Toxicity in Mouse Astrocyte Neuronal C8-D1A Cell Line
Etc.
In fact the list is quite long but so as not to make this too long, here are just the top few finalists - It's amazing that most of this was done when the kids were 16 and 17 years old.
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The students researched a variety of topics, from the use of artificial intelligence to categorizing wildfire origins, attitudes toward the war in Ukraine and the neurobiology of suicide. Regeneron scholars typically spend weeks or months on their projects, working closely with mentors who guide their research. Projects can often take more than a year. The Regeneron Science Talent Search is a proving ground for future scientific genius. The prestigious competition dates back to 1942, when it was known as the Westinghouse Science Talent Search. More recently, it was sponsored by Intel until 2016. Over its 83-year history, the competition has produced semifinalists and finalists who have gone on to become Nobel Prize winners (13), National Medal of Science recipients (11), and MacArthur fellows (20).
Senior Ema Wen did research on Pancreatic Cancer Passionate Long Island senior selected as Regeneron finalist for pancreatic cancer research. Project Title: AUM-302, A Novel Triple PIM/PI3K/mTOR Inhibitor, Offers Promising Potential in Reducing the Growth of Pancreatic Ductal Adenocarcinoma Spheroids and Organoids
At Great Neck South, senior Alexander Xu, 17, was among the students recognized for his research. A volunteer EMT, his project involved a new way to search radiology reports. He developed his research over the summer while working in a lab at the Albert Einstein College of Medicine. “To get this award, people spent their summer working in labs, and that includes reading a lot of literature each day and really critically thinking about what they are reading and how they can improve on what they read.”
Jolene Cao Smithtown High School East, Saint James, NY Project Title: Synthesis of Stable and Magnetically Responsive Magnetite/Cesium Lead Halide Perovskite Quantum Dots for Programmable Light Polarization
Ishana Chadha Commack High School, Commack, NY Project Title: Understanding Neuronal Migration in Brain Development: The Role of Oligophrenin1 in Modulating Radial Migration of Pyramidal Neurons by Interaction With Pacsin2
Melody Heeju Hong General Douglas MacArthur High School, Levittown, NY Project Title: A Bayesian Exploration Into More Flexible trans Methylation Quantitative Trait Locus Mapping
Sandeep Sawhney Herricks High School, New Hyde Park, NY Project Title: Gallium-Mediated DNA Tensegrity Triangle-Based Crystals: A Novel Prototype Facilitating Gallium Cancer Therapy
Johnathan Ahdout John L. Miller Great Neck North High School, NY
Project Title: Contextualizing Data-Sparse QSPR Property Prediction With Categorical Representations Built from Variational Autoencoders
Aafia Ahmed Elmont Memorial High School, NY Project Title: JAK2/STAT3 Signaling Pathway Mediates Methylmercury Toxicity in Mouse Astrocyte Neuronal C8-D1A Cell Line
Etc.
This post was edited on 2/3/26 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 2/3/26 at 3:26 pm to conservativewifeymom
We selected our own homeschool curriculum based on what we wanted the kids to know and what they needed to know. Both are in college and the youngest will start law school next year. The older is pursuing nursing. Homeschooling is entirely about what you put into it and holding yourself and your children accountable.
Posted on 2/3/26 at 3:47 pm to conservativewifeymom
It's not just home school. We received the following letter from Archbishop Paul S. Coakley in our school newsletter today:
The recent killing of two people by immigration enforcement officers in Minneapolis and that of a detained man in Texas, are just a few of the tragic examples of the violence that represent failures in our society to respect the dignity of every human life. We mourn this loss of life and deplore the indifference and injustice it represents. The current climate of fear and
polarization, which thrives when human dignity is disregarded, does not meet the standard set by Christ in the Gospel.
As a step toward healing, I invite my brother bishops and priests across the United States to offer a Holy Hour for Peace in the days ahead. Let us pray for reconciliation where there is division, for justice where there are violations of fundamental rights, and for consolation for all who feel overwhelmed by fear or loss. I encourage Catholics everywhere to
participate, whether in parishes, chapels, or before the Lord present in the quiet of their hearts for healing in our nation and communities.
May this Holy Hour be a moment of renewal for our hearts and for our nation. Entrusting our fears and hopes to the Sacred Heart of Jesus, let us ask the Lord to make us instruments of his peace and witnesses to the inherent dignity of every person.
While this is a beautiful sentiment, and a fundamental part of Catholicism is the dignity of the human person, it ignores the glaring reality of the sheer number of people murdered in this country each year. This is a political statement.
The recent killing of two people by immigration enforcement officers in Minneapolis and that of a detained man in Texas, are just a few of the tragic examples of the violence that represent failures in our society to respect the dignity of every human life. We mourn this loss of life and deplore the indifference and injustice it represents. The current climate of fear and
polarization, which thrives when human dignity is disregarded, does not meet the standard set by Christ in the Gospel.
As a step toward healing, I invite my brother bishops and priests across the United States to offer a Holy Hour for Peace in the days ahead. Let us pray for reconciliation where there is division, for justice where there are violations of fundamental rights, and for consolation for all who feel overwhelmed by fear or loss. I encourage Catholics everywhere to
participate, whether in parishes, chapels, or before the Lord present in the quiet of their hearts for healing in our nation and communities.
May this Holy Hour be a moment of renewal for our hearts and for our nation. Entrusting our fears and hopes to the Sacred Heart of Jesus, let us ask the Lord to make us instruments of his peace and witnesses to the inherent dignity of every person.
While this is a beautiful sentiment, and a fundamental part of Catholicism is the dignity of the human person, it ignores the glaring reality of the sheer number of people murdered in this country each year. This is a political statement.
Posted on 2/3/26 at 3:55 pm to Eurocat
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it had a list of this year Regeneron finalists.
That is quite impressive. I doubt you'll get students with research projects like that from most of the public schools in Louisiana. The mostly likely candidates would be students from Baton Rouge Magnet, Episcopal High, and a few others in other cities. I suspect that home schooling parents whose children would be interested in science at that level would transfer their children to the appropriate school in middle or high school. My children weren't that interested in science, so it wasn't a concern for us.
This post was edited on 2/3/26 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 2/4/26 at 12:03 pm to Carolhdg
I understand, and I am floored myself. I was always good at science, come from a family of 'em, never was really interested it it, and frankly I don't understand 90 percent of what those words are! LOL.
Thanks for the reply and have a great day.
Thanks for the reply and have a great day.
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