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re: A hard truth: Rodney King, OJ, Michael Brown, George Floyd, Karmelo Anthony.

Posted on 6/6/26 at 7:23 pm to
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
15715 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 7:23 pm to
quote:

Good people don't make the news most of the time.

Give me the example of the "good" black guy mistreated by the cops in the last 30 years. One that wasn't a piece of shite like Michael Brown or George Floyd.
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
20393 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 7:25 pm to
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Where does Rodney King fit in that we're still demonizing him several decades later?


Career criminal and drug addict.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44486 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 7:25 pm to
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If you don’t know any black people that are good people


Most of the black people that I know are hard working people that make my community better.

That being said, those lists put forth have a lot of shitbags on them that were venerated in blue cities and college campuses.

Both of the above statements are true and do not contradict one another.
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
66833 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 7:26 pm to
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Where does Rodney King fit in that we're still demonizing him several decades later?

The list is matt Walsh's, not mine. Rodney King was a career criminal, but I would not have put him on the list over some others
Posted by CrystalPreserves
Member since May 2019
4398 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 7:27 pm to
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Give me the example of the "good" black guy mistreated by the cops in the last 30 years. One that wasn't a piece of shite like Michael Brown or George Floyd.


The need to find a flawless victim before you’ll care about misconduct says more about your standard than theirs. Rights apply to everyone, not just people you approve of.
Turd.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44486 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 7:30 pm to
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The need to find a flawless victim before you’ll care about misconduct says more about your standard than theirs.


Describe the misconduct.
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
15715 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 7:31 pm to
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The need to find a flawless victim before you’ll care about misconduct says more about your standard than theirs. Rights apply to everyone, not just people you approve of.
Turd.

So, what you're saying is "none"? Just thugs that commit strong arm robbery, put guns to pregnant women's bellies, stab unarmed people, etc? Those are the people getting treated "bad"?
Posted by CrystalPreserves
Member since May 2019
4398 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 7:34 pm to
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Describe the misconduct.



The point isn’t that misconduct occurred in every case. The point is that a victim’s character doesn’t determine whether misconduct occurred. Those are two separate questions.
This post was edited on 6/6/26 at 7:35 pm
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
16587 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 7:34 pm to
That went right over your head.

You said those thugs were the best we have.
I said you're wrong.
Then I said Good people don't make the news most of the time.

I can't understand it for you.
Posted by AUIH1
Logan Martin Lake, Talladega, AL
Member since Oct 2012
489 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 7:38 pm to
I know a bunch who are quality people. None are like the culcha heroes listed in the OP. This is a lot like the “there are good muslims” platitudes some morons always throw out when a muslim blows others and himself up.

Do better policing of your own if you’re black.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
36133 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 7:38 pm to
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Y’all need to get off the Internet. If you don’t know any black people that are good people, then you are shut in your mom’s basement.


Please try and pay attention.
Posted by CrystalPreserves
Member since May 2019
4398 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 7:41 pm to
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So, what you're saying is "none"? Just thugs that commit strong arm robbery, put guns to pregnant women's bellies, stab unarmed people, etc? Those are the people getting treated "bad"?



You’re still doing the same thing.

“Was this person a criminal?” is one question.

“Did the police act lawfully?” is another.

The fact that you keep substituting the first question for the second suggests you already know they’re not the same.
Posted by Lou
Modesto, CA
Member since Aug 2005
8853 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 7:43 pm to
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Its true, but Matt Walsh is just a grifter too.
Maybe. Still, he hasn't killed or assaulted anyone.
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
15715 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 7:45 pm to
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You said those thugs were the best we have.
I said you're wrong.
Then I said Good people don't make the news most of the time.

I can't understand it for you.

I think my post went over your head.
NOBODY said good black people don't exist.
This thread and my post are concerned those thugs who are held up by the black community as examples of police misconduct.

None of those people were good.
What I said is there are no "good people" being mistreated by police. Those criminal thugs are the best examples the left can claim, because there aren't any actually good people being mistreated. That whole scenario has been pretty much a myth for the last 30 years.
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
21126 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 7:46 pm to
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A hard truth: Rodney King, OJ, Michael Brown, George Floyd, Karmelo Anthony.


The fact this post has 4 downvotes…what kind of damned shithead could disagree with what was said?
This post was edited on 6/6/26 at 7:47 pm
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
15715 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 7:48 pm to
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You’re still doing the same thing.

“Was this person a criminal?” is one question.

“Did the police act lawfully?” is another.

The fact that you keep substituting the first question for the second suggests you already know they’re not the same.

So you're admitting that the WORST CASE SCENARIO is that *sometimes* *horrible criminals* are 'mistreated'?

And we can still debate each case, if they were actually even mistreated.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44486 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 7:49 pm to
quote:

The point is that a victim’s character doesn’t determine whether misconduct occurred.


I agree.

I just wanted to see how that applied in your two examples.
Posted by CrystalPreserves
Member since May 2019
4398 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 7:54 pm to
quote:

So you're admitting that the WORST CASE SCENARIO is that *sometimes* *horrible criminals* are 'mistreated'? And we can still debate each case, if they were actually even mistreated.



You seem convinced that once someone commits a crime, all further analysis can stop.

That’s not how rights work, and it’s not how the law works.

Most adults figure out that distinction fairly early on.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74318 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 7:56 pm to
George Floyd was made into a folk hero

Stop trying to claim otherwise
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
15715 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 7:57 pm to
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You seem convinced that once someone commits a crime, all further analysis can stop.

That’s not how rights work, and it’s not how the law works.

Most adults figure out that distinction fairly early on.

You don't think there is a difference between completely innocent people being targeted and abused by the police for no reason, as opposed to violent criminals possibly being mistreated when they are apprehended? Those two things are exactly the same to you?
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