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re: A federal judge has just BLOCKED SecWar Pete Hegseth from disciplining or demoting seditio
Posted on 2/12/26 at 7:03 pm to Ailsa
Posted on 2/12/26 at 7:03 pm to Ailsa
Federal courts can weigh in on these issues. What burns me up on this is that the DOJ and the courts will fight tooth and nail to preserve military punishment like stripping security clearances or administrative discharges, when it comes to junior personnel. The military can violate your rights, it can completely deny you a fair and impartial hearing (a constitutional right) and these judges will gladly sign off on that. But when it's a senator that's a retired military officer, in the Democratic Party, all of a sudden they want to discuss civil rights.
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Posted on 2/12/26 at 7:04 pm to Barneyrb
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Isn't that a military issue and the fed court has no jurisdiction?
Then why did Pirro try (and fail) to indict Kelly in a DC court?
Posted on 2/12/26 at 7:07 pm to Powerman
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Another L for another loser in the Trump orbit trying to do illegal shite. Go cry about it loser.
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Powerman
You're simultaneously displaying both your maturity level and your Trump Derangement Syndrome. It's fascinating.
This is going to be a long three years for you, man.
Posted on 2/12/26 at 7:08 pm to boosiebadazz
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Has anyone read the briefing?
If you find it share it. Im genuinely curious because in general Federal judges (except in limited circumstances the Supreme court) have no jurisdiction over military court martials...so this must not be that kind of case if true
This post was edited on 2/12/26 at 7:09 pm
Posted on 2/12/26 at 7:10 pm to Powerman
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If they don't have the authority then the OP is fake news
They generally don't have the authority except in certain circumstances. Kelly's lawyer is claiming a violation of his First Amendment rights by the DoW and that charge of constitutionality is one of those certain circumstances. Kelly not being active duty only strengthens that.
The story is real.
But let's face it, what he and the others were doing was to urge members of the active military to disobey OMB, otherwise there's no reason to put out that video at all (why didn't they put it out under Biden's administration, for example). I consider it seditious but it's one of those things that's very likely to be viewed by the courts of stopping just shy of being illegal.
Posted on 2/12/26 at 7:15 pm to Powerman
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Another L for another loser in the Trump orbit trying to do illegal shite. Go cry about it loser.
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Another L for another loser in the Trump orbit trying to do illegal shite. Go cry about it loser.
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Another L for another loser in the Trump orbit trying to do illegal shite. Go cry about it loser.
no it won't as there is no jurisdiction for federal judges in the military not to worry jethrine you will still be free to solicit sex in public restrooms from complete strangers!
Posted on 2/12/26 at 7:35 pm to dickkellog
I would be quite content if I never saw another news story with the word judge or lawyer in it. Do you have to get a court appointed order to take a crap in Washington? No wonder nothing is accomplished.
Posted on 2/12/26 at 7:36 pm to Bard
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Bard
Solid take. I never thought anything would happen with this, but it would have been a plus for me if it miraculously did
Posted on 2/12/26 at 7:41 pm to boosiebadazz
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Has anyone read the briefing?
Irrelevant, civilian judge has no authority here. This fall under UMCJ. If this dude wants his day in court in this matter that is where it must be heard.
Posted on 2/12/26 at 7:43 pm to Powerman
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Another L for another loser in the Trump orbit trying to do illegal shite. Go cry about it loser.
In shocking news, Power Bottom has never served and doesn't understand UCMJ actions and jurisdictions
This post was edited on 2/12/26 at 7:45 pm
Posted on 2/12/26 at 7:46 pm to dakarx
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How does a Federal judge have any authority in UCMJ actions ???
Exactly the very first question I had upon reading this thread.
Posted on 2/12/26 at 7:50 pm to PaperTiger
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Apparently federal judges are over everything. Good grief
You know who and others agree.
3 branches?? My arse.
Era of the Rule of the Black Robes we have entered into.
Posted on 2/12/26 at 7:51 pm to Powerman
If they don't have the authority then the OP is fake news
You're a fricking clown. As brainwashed as you are, there is no way you believe a liberal judge won't overstep their authority.
You're a fricking clown. As brainwashed as you are, there is no way you believe a liberal judge won't overstep their authority.
Posted on 2/12/26 at 7:52 pm to Ailsa
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Counter point - don't you think it might be important to know history to try to prevent the atrocities from the past from recurring?
All this tells us is that hedgeseck is intending to issue unlawful orders to the troops and intends them to obey them or else. I’m not surprised with this regime.
Posted on 2/12/26 at 7:54 pm to Clark14
Lol clown
Posted on 2/12/26 at 7:57 pm to Ponchy Tiger
This seems interesting:
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In his decision, Leon noted that the government failed to identify a single case showing that the free speech restrictions on active-duty service members have ever been extended to retired veterans.
He said the clampdown is more dire given Kelly’s position in Congress.
“Indeed, if legislators do not feel free to express their views and the views of their constituents without fear of reprisal by the Executive, our representative system of Government cannot function!” the judge wrote.
Posted on 2/12/26 at 7:57 pm to theronswanson
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This won’t end well for Hegseth. Just drop it and don’t suffer the loss from the Supreme Court.
This is just a step needed to get them to military tribunals. Looking forward to it.
Posted on 2/12/26 at 7:58 pm to Clark14
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Clark14
Why did you get chaptered out of the military? Be honest.
Posted on 2/12/26 at 7:58 pm to theronswanson
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This won’t end well for Hegseth. Just drop it and don’t suffer the loss from the Supreme Court.
Matlock? Is that you?
Posted on 2/12/26 at 7:59 pm to boosiebadazz
And SCOTUS may overrule him, but it seems like a matter of first impression given the blurb I quoted above.
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