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re: 9+6 = ? "Our young learners might not be altogether comfortable..."

Posted on 9/5/14 at 7:18 am to
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 7:18 am to


okay, I've had my morning laff I'm ready to go to work now.
Posted by son of arlo
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 7:20 am to
Farrakhan's Math Made Easy FTW!
Posted by mtntiger
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 7:29 am to
I think you're still off.

It seems you shortchanged the brothers and exaggerated whitey, and I have yet to meet a dime who drinks MD20/20.

This new urban commom core math sucks even worse than whitey's common core math.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 7:30 am to
Sounds like you only date white girls. Racist.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 7:36 am to
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mtntiger

quote:

Asheville, NC



Okay...I give YOU:

Hillbilly Common Core:


9 + 6 = ?


First....take off your shoes.....



Posted by stat19
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 7:48 am to
What's next for the entitlement generation? Perhaps they want me to do the math for them.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 7:50 am to
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What's next for the entitlement generation? Perhaps they want me to do the math for them.


Well, to be fair...i just asked Siri and "she" gave me the correct answer. So.........
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 7:51 am to
quote:

Okay...I give YOU:

Hillbilly Common Core:


9 + 6 = ?


First....take off your shoes.....


The problem with hillbilly common core is between inbreeding, and hunting/farming/wood-chopping accidents, there's a lot of us with either more than ten toes or less.

Dang, math is hard.
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 7:53 am to
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I can do fairly complex calculations in my head and that is exactly the method I've used all my life. I'm glad to see it's been formalized.

It's easy to poke fun at something you don't understand. Do you move your lips when you read?


Yes, but how can you do these complex calculations? Because you learned the correct way of calculating them as a child. Forcing kids to use shortcuts that, as adults, are commonplace, doesn't work when the kid doesn't know the basics of mathematics. This is the reason common core math is a failure.
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 7:55 am to
In addition, not every single person uses mental shortcuts the calculate problems the same way. We use what our minds comprehend the best. Standardizing it will only force 1 way of "learning" math, and will be largely inconsistent and will ultimately fail children.

Any rational intelligent human can see this. Layabout can not.
Posted by son of arlo
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 8:00 am to
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there's a lot of us with either more than ten toes or less.


That's hillbilly common core subtraction for masochists.
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 8:00 am to
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note: when i'd have to go explain how i did problems and i used my own method, i would just confuse students and the teacher wouldn't ask me to do it again (nerd fistbump to myself)


I had the same math teacher from 8th grade until my senior year in HS. (Small school, only one teacher to teach the smart kids math) After about a year he stopped asking me how I got my answer because my reply was always "I don't know, I just did."

I could see the right answer but couldn't coherently write out the work or explain how I got it.
Posted by WeeWee
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 8:05 am to
9-6=Bama mulligan
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 8:22 am to
Seems like a good method to me.

No peeking but do this in your head. NO PEEKING below.

678 plus 517. In your head.























Okay now 680 plus 515.

Easier ain't it?
Posted by BugAC
St. George
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 8:27 am to
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678 plus 517. In your head.

Okay now 680 plus 515.

Easier ain't it?


I got 695 + 500.

Also, how did you add that up in your head? Were you forced to learn the shortcut, or did you, over time, learn the shortcut yourself based on your previous knowledge of mathematics learned the original way? You can't force innovation when you don't even know the building blocks. It causes massive failures.
Posted by TROLA
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 8:27 am to
It has to be taught using simple equations to take hold of understanding the lager sequences... I believe having a base of memorization on smaller numbers is great but being able to use this method for larger sequences is a solid tool. The video just picks apart the beginning and not the end result
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 8:28 am to
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I can do fairly complex calculations in my head and that is exactly the method I've used all my life


So do I, but it's overkill for single digit addition and I don't see where you'd save time later by learning this with single digits now. It isn't efficient.

Just learn to add single digits like that on the fly, and the process by which we do more complex problems in our head can be learned a couple year later (as it already is)

9+6=15....why do we need a new concept with more steps to learn this?
This post was edited on 9/5/14 at 8:30 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 8:29 am to
quote:

Yes, but how can you do these complex calculations? Because you learned the correct way of calculating them as a child.

wrote memorization may be how you and i learned the first time, but it's not the "correct" way

quote:

Forcing kids to use shortcuts that, as adults, are commonplace, doesn't work when the kid doesn't know the basics of mathematics.

what exactly makes wrote memorization a "basic" of math?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 8:30 am to
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9+6=15....why do we need a new concept with more steps to learn this?

go read my comments about deconstructing the symbols we use to denote numbers, and that will tell you why
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 8:37 am to
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Common core is idiotic because it sees what higher functioning students are able to do and mistakenly believes that every student can immediately leap to learning the complex calculations without teaching them the basics first.


This math curriculum isn't Common Core. It's a math curriculum called "Everyday Math" and is undoubtedly the worst math curriculum to ever be perpetrated upon US children. It is designed to meet "Common Core" standards, but no school district is forced to used Everyday Math to meet those standards. They can use whatever curriculum they want.
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