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Posted on 4/9/25 at 1:06 pm to Nosevens
The way I see it is the majority of the countries want to work out a deal.
Trump paused tariffs in order to get those deals made.
China is not willing to deal...yet so... "no soup for you!"

Trump paused tariffs in order to get those deals made.
China is not willing to deal...yet so... "no soup for you!"

Posted on 4/9/25 at 1:09 pm to The_Duke
Getting rid of policies that harmed Americans regardless of where they are while putting heavy pressure on china and corporations to build here is some heavy lifting that shows to be happening. Explain how this is bad
Posted on 4/9/25 at 1:10 pm to Darth_Vader
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And now China is out on limb all by themselves in this trade war with the US.
No, they are not, and this is but one of the major fallacies of your argument.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 1:10 pm to Darth_Vader
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You’re like a dog watching a game of chess.

Posted on 4/9/25 at 1:11 pm to CollegeFBRules
Trump for decades has had this stance but yeah no long term willingness
Posted on 4/9/25 at 1:11 pm to BayouBlitz
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Trump bent the knee. He saw his approval rating dropping and had to change direction. MAGA will move goal posts. Pivot!!!! Thankfully my 401k is alive and well.
I’m glad they focused on something strategic such as China.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 1:12 pm to The_Duke
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This is a complete shite show. Zero strategy
The strategy is clear. Get everyone to negotiate trade deals and isolate China until they either bend the knee or everyone moves on without them
Posted on 4/9/25 at 1:12 pm to CollegeFBRules
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No, they are not, and this is but one of the major fallacies of your argument.
Spell it out then. Who these other countries aligning with China? Tell me which countries want 125% tariffs on the goods they send to the US.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 1:12 pm to VoxDawg
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He kinda looks like Jack Soo. (of Barney Miller fame).
Posted on 4/9/25 at 1:12 pm to The_Duke
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This is a complete shite show.
Zero strategy
Only vibes
You think this is zero strategy?

Posted on 4/9/25 at 1:13 pm to Auy2k
Remember that those countries have deals with China too which you can bet is being used to get additional pressures
Posted on 4/9/25 at 1:13 pm to BayouBlitz
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Trump bent the knee. He saw his approval rating dropping and had to change direction.
CNN stated yesterday his approval rating was staying the same as it's been for last few months

Posted on 4/9/25 at 1:14 pm to LegendInMyMind
Hopefully Pelosi was probably still getting shorter without any good inside info to guide her and losing her arse today!
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What Trump did was brilliant. Had his first move been to tariff Chyna and no one else that tanks the markets.
He tariffed everyone and put the world on turmoil. These other countries realized he was serious and would lose a ton of money.
Then he puts the 104% on Chyna. But he brought most of the big players to table and paused theirs.
They know he is serious and will make concessions. Just as important they are on notice going forward which will make them less prone to pull of shenanigans.
Meanwhile he now has his Chyna only tariffs and the markets are rip roaring higher at the same time. Genius! Everyone feels better yet he has cornered Chyna.
Had he played it only Chyna at start other countries would have bought/rebranded/sold Chyna goods. Now they won’t as they seen how close their own countries came to much higher tariffs.
This really was a great play. Nothing leaked out either. Everyone thought it was real. And thats what it needed to work.
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What Trump did was brilliant. Had his first move been to tariff Chyna and no one else that tanks the markets.
He tariffed everyone and put the world on turmoil. These other countries realized he was serious and would lose a ton of money.
Then he puts the 104% on Chyna. But he brought most of the big players to table and paused theirs.
They know he is serious and will make concessions. Just as important they are on notice going forward which will make them less prone to pull of shenanigans.
Meanwhile he now has his Chyna only tariffs and the markets are rip roaring higher at the same time. Genius! Everyone feels better yet he has cornered Chyna.
Had he played it only Chyna at start other countries would have bought/rebranded/sold Chyna goods. Now they won’t as they seen how close their own countries came to much higher tariffs.
This really was a great play. Nothing leaked out either. Everyone thought it was real. And thats what it needed to work.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 1:15 pm to MtVernon
Why it’s best now because more decades later will be to late.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 1:17 pm to Darth_Vader
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The reason it appears to be a shite show to you is you’re too dim witted to comprehend whats happening. You’re like a dog watching a game of chess.
Everything is going according to plan.

Sometimes caving is how you show everyone you won.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 1:17 pm to AGGIES
Also, seeing close trading partner and neighbor Canada running off to make trade deals with China to offset the US trade war was a very bad look, and needed to be avoided.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 1:19 pm to The_Duke
The strategy is probably too subtle for you, and his finesse impossible for you to understand.
He brought the countries out of their things-as-usual lethargy and let them know that those times are over. Adults are in charge, and there are consequences for actions against the best interests of the US. NOW he has their attention and they have had to wake up and smell the new reality.
The phones are ringing off the hook and everyone, big or small, wants to negotiate. Except China!
It's really not so complicated, and the beauty is in the simplicity of the strategy. But perphaps not for some!
He brought the countries out of their things-as-usual lethargy and let them know that those times are over. Adults are in charge, and there are consequences for actions against the best interests of the US. NOW he has their attention and they have had to wake up and smell the new reality.
The phones are ringing off the hook and everyone, big or small, wants to negotiate. Except China!
It's really not so complicated, and the beauty is in the simplicity of the strategy. But perphaps not for some!

Posted on 4/9/25 at 1:19 pm to AGGIES
China should pay 300% tariffs until we recoup all of the money we spent on the China Virus.
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