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re: 40% of all living veterans are on disability benefits

Posted on 7/13/26 at 3:15 pm to
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
17346 posts
Posted on 7/13/26 at 3:15 pm to
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What are some of the easily faked issues?

How are they fooling VA doctors that they have an injury that doesn't exist?

How are all these PTSD fakers able to fool psychiatric personnel?

You can't be serious. There are entire websites dedicated to coaching people through this, including those that refer you to their own doctors.
Posted by Warrior Court
Atlanta
Member since Apr 2022
3946 posts
Posted on 7/13/26 at 3:17 pm to
I imagine having to live with tinnitus would really suck.
Posted by Philzilla
Member since Nov 2011
2238 posts
Posted on 7/13/26 at 3:18 pm to
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There are entire websites dedicated to coaching people through this, including those that refer you to their own doctors.

Cool, thanks.
And don't forget to pay your taxes.
Posted by High Life
Member since Dec 2014
3824 posts
Posted on 7/13/26 at 3:20 pm to
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It's this sort of thinking that has allowed the fraud to creep in FYI, the fraudsters are ruining it and are taking away from the legit claims. You should want to tackle it instead of acting like it's untouchable just because someone served


What fraud? Veterans are examined physically and psychologically by doctors to get their benefit rating. Many veterans don’t even bother with trying to get their benefits. You can’t just make shite up. For every veteran that went out of their way to get more benefits than they deserve there’s another 10 that got less or nothing.

Once again you don’t know wtf you’re talking about because you’ve never had to live in a disgusting old barracks, or sleep in the field for weeks, or bake in the desert, or jump out of a plane, or carry a 70lb ruck on your back. You’ve never had to fight in a war or go years without seeing friends and family. You’ve probably never volunteered for anything in your life so you think it’s all fun and games. I don’t know any service members who didn’t have to endure some type of physical injuries or mental stress. Of course some service members may have had a nice job or gotten more than they deserve but most don’t. If you were able to exit the military honorably I can assure you they got their moneys worth out of you.

And if you really think the shite is so sweet why don’t you give it a try. Please please be my guest
This post was edited on 7/13/26 at 3:27 pm
Posted by MrSpock
Member since Sep 2015
5157 posts
Posted on 7/13/26 at 3:21 pm to
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Have you reported them for fraud?


No, I personally don't care.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
21974 posts
Posted on 7/13/26 at 3:23 pm to
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Serving in the military takes its toll both mentally and physically

My father in law was in an Army infantry unit in Vietnam. He had a generally positive attitude about everything in his life including his military service. Being drafted right out of high school at 18 you could see it still had an impact on him his entire life. It hurt him watching his friends die. He talked about not wanting to get too close to anyone while he was there. It also hurt him coming home and having people shite all over him for his Vietnam service. War changes boys into men quickly. He never received disability.
This post was edited on 7/13/26 at 3:25 pm
Posted by Chopper 2
Member since Aug 2007
45 posts
Posted on 7/13/26 at 3:23 pm to
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You can't be serious. There are entire websites dedicated to coaching people through this, including those that refer you to their own doctors.


I am aware of these sites, as is the VA. Coaching someone on what to say is not the same as faking an injury. The medical documentation must accompany the claim.
Posted by lurking
Member since Nov 2022
2952 posts
Posted on 7/13/26 at 3:30 pm to
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No, I personally don't care.


Sir, I’ve been informed this is crucial to MAGA 2026 and beyond.

This is not a joke.
Posted by BlueFalcon
Aberdeen Scotland
Member since Dec 2011
3697 posts
Posted on 7/13/26 at 3:35 pm to
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I am aware of these sites, as is the VA. Coaching someone on what to say is not the same as faking an injury. The medical documentation must accompany the claim.


This

The whole myth of 'Massive VA fraud' hinges on 'Look at how many more veterans getting disability there are as opposed to there were in the year 2000!!!' while forgetting about the decades of war

Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
9296 posts
Posted on 7/13/26 at 3:39 pm to
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No one said there aren’t some fraudulent claims. The issue is it’s impossible to address that without changing the criteria for disability ratings that will inevitably lead to diminished benefits for all.

i agree that the horde of fraudulent claims have led to a situation that will most likely lead to diminished benefits for all. but that's the fault of the fraudsters, not the people who want to eradicate all the liars.
Posted by lurking
Member since Nov 2022
2952 posts
Posted on 7/13/26 at 3:46 pm to
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the horde of fraudulent claims


There is no horde of fraudulent claims. You’ve fallen for the rebranded propaganda of the American left designed to weaken and destroy our military.

This has been a stated goal since at least Vietnam. It appears they’ve finally found a willing partner in MAGA.
Posted by eitek1
Member since Jun 2011
2892 posts
Posted on 7/13/26 at 3:46 pm to
I stayed in touch with my squad from when I was in the army. I'm 54 years old and a Desert Shield/Storm vet.

Out of the 10 or so of us, 2 are dead, 5 are pretty jacked up physically and 3 of us are in normal/good health.

Just a random airborne squad in a transportation company.

The cost of military service can be quite high.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
39183 posts
Posted on 7/13/26 at 3:52 pm to
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The U.S. military gave free cigarettes to soldiers starting in World War I to calm nerves in battle and ease boredom. During World War II and the Vietnam War, cigarette packs were standard in daily field ration kits. This practice ended in 1972 as health risks became clear.
Yes. I'm aware. They also gave you MREs while they were in the service. Did they continue eating MREs when they got out of the service?
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
17346 posts
Posted on 7/13/26 at 3:54 pm to
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You’ve fallen for the rebranded propaganda of the American left designed

Why the explosion after 2013, when we'd already been at war for 12 years?

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Posted by lurking
Member since Nov 2022
2952 posts
Posted on 7/13/26 at 3:58 pm to
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Why the explosion after 2013, when we'd already been at war for 12 years?


Veterans stopped killing themselves.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
69402 posts
Posted on 7/13/26 at 3:58 pm to
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I imagine having to live with tinnitus would really suck.

I don't have it, but there's no physically observable anatomy change, making it the easiest thing to fake, and coincidentally is the highest claimed condition.

And as far as people saying that we shouldn't question any disability, it should tick you off that money is going to pay for people's phony claims and not more to those totally disabled or unable to work a regular job after they serve.
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
9296 posts
Posted on 7/13/26 at 4:00 pm to
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There is no horde of fraudulent claims. You’ve fallen for the rebranded propaganda of the American left designed to weaken and destroy our military.

look, i trust that you are saying this in good faith, and you really just dont know what it's like right now, but i am tellign you that i see this shite every day. i know what i'm talking about. you've been over the top dickheaded to me in this thread for simply stating what I know to be true based on my own personal observation, first-hand knowledge, and experience, and that is that there is massive fraud in the system. and the messaging to every single kid serving today is exactly what i've seen in this thread - "you were underpaid, undervalued, mistreated and now it's time for you to get yours." i find that messaging personally and professionally insulting.

i'm not accusing you personally of anything, yet you are taking it as a personal attack on you and your service. if you are disabled from your service and you receive appropriate compensation based on legitimate claims, then my issue isnt with you at all. but you are taking very personally even the NOTION that there is fraud ANYWHERE.

the designed destruction of the military by the American left is this - getting hundreds of thousands, millions even, of otherwise conservative Americans hooked on that sweet Uncle Sugar paycheck in perpetuity. THAT'S the agenda, not some weird propaganda claim or whatever it is that you're saying to me.
This post was edited on 7/13/26 at 4:03 pm
Posted by Bill Parker?
Member since Jan 2013
5485 posts
Posted on 7/13/26 at 4:04 pm to
I know three people who are rated 100% VA disability. Two physical, one mental. All three function better than I do physically. No idea on the mental side - I haven't had that discussion and don't plan to.

My point of reference is my 20% disability rating from a work related accident 35 years ago. By choice, I never received or asked for one red dime in disability payments. But 20% vs 100% is a big difference.
Posted by lurking
Member since Nov 2022
2952 posts
Posted on 7/13/26 at 4:04 pm to
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you really just dont know what it's like right now, but i am tellign you that i see this shite every day. i know what i'm talking about. you've been over the top dickheaded to me in this thread for simply stating what I know to be true based on my own personal observation, first-hand knowledge, and experience, and that is that there is massive fraud in the system and the messaging to every single kid serving today is exactly what i've seen in this thread - you were underpaid, undervalued, mistreated and now it's time for you to get yours. i find that messaging personally and professionally insulting.


I’m on the board of a regional DAV chapter, dipshit. You’re misinformed despite our best efforts.

ETA:

Most likely you’ve been denied claims and have a personal vendetta against those you view less worthy of a higher rating than what you have.
This post was edited on 7/13/26 at 4:08 pm
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
5332 posts
Posted on 7/13/26 at 4:07 pm to
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Numerous states don't tax regular military retirement.


No, the percentage makes it non-taxable for Federal. I never filed any claims when I seperated because I never had anything other than a issue with one of my feet. When I did put my name in the VA system for health benefits just this year, the lady who signed me up said I was likely eligible for some.

I've been out for over 25 years

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