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Chopper 2
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Why would a pilot with only 500 hours be conducting an evaluation of a pilot with 1000 hours?
They weren't. The 500 hr CPT was receiving a check ride from the 1000 hr CW2 IP.
They keep saying that she was the PIC, but the CW2 IP was overall responsible for the aircraft. Whether she was manipulating the controls or not, the IP was the overall aircraft commander. He was responsible for see & avoid.
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She was sitting in the left-hand side of the cockpit with the best visibility of the CRJ approaching from her left.
Do we know that for a fact?
Because that's a stunning revelation.
I'm going to go out on a limb here, but if the information is correct that she was conducting a check ride, then in all probability she was in the right seat. The pilot being evaluated will almost always fly in the pilot seat while the IP will fly left seat and evaluate.
Seems like there are a lot of fixed wing pilots that aren't aware that the pilot station in a helicopter is the right seat.
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I like to think you may have had a thought or two about the flight going through a high traffic commercial airspace before signing off.
Indeed I would. But, the mission is to support the evacuation of high rating individuals in the event of an emergency. My pilots need to train as they fight and fly day or night. To do that they need to fly those routes day & night.
I am very sympathetic to the tragedy, but higher ups need to change or amend the mission.
As a side note, while not flying PAT, I did fly those DC routes for several years in a different capacity. AND, I'll admit it was also about 30 years ago and I realize things will change.
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500 hours is not a lot of flight time.
She wasn’t a student pilot, though. That was my point.
As a 20 year Army Aviator I'll like to add my prospective on this accident...
The CPT was not a student but a Rated Aviator on a training mission. Once she graduated from Fort Rucker she was a full fledged pilot.
500 hours for her time in service and her rank was on par with most Army pilots. You would be horrified to learn that there are 100s, if not 1000s, of 500 hour PIC aviators flying missions all across the country. We build our time by flying with more experienced aviators. In this case, she was paired with a 1000 hr Instructor Pilot.
Had I been their commander with a 1000 hr IP and 500 hr pilot, I would have signed that mission brief.
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Plus, that assumes the pilots got the latest altimeter setting
The tower is required to provide the current altimeter setting at the time of initial contact and should be repeated back the pilot. This is a standard procedure.
re: 3rd Soldier of the BlackHawk identified
Posted by Chopper 2 on 2/2/25 at 12:25 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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But you do know there was a woman onboard who took a picture with Biden once and went to a pride event, right?
Oh, right, sarcasm...
re: 3rd Soldier of the BlackHawk identified
Posted by Chopper 2 on 2/2/25 at 12:17 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Have you considered that there was a woman onboard, though?
I considered that the CW2 IP was overall responsible for the aircraft and should have taken the controls if he saw a problem, regardless who the other pilot was.
re: 3rd Soldier of the BlackHawk identified
Posted by Chopper 2 on 2/2/25 at 11:56 am to BarberitosDawg
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Of all the Combat Pilots in the Army why they have a young Captain with minimal flight time on such an important post is mind boggling?
Just a point of clarification for you and anyone interested.
The CPT was logging PIC time because the CW2 was logging IP (Instructor Pilot) time. That's the way the Army logs flight time.
Because the IP was conducting a "check ride" he was overall responsible for the safety of the aircraft.
When the Army Accident Review Board conducts their investigation I believe they will find that the CW2 was at fault for mid-air (see & avoid).
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It would be really nice if we had an actual helo pilot with a lot more relevant experience could comment since my experience may not translate well at all.
Your overall summation is pretty accurate. So, here's my prospective... I have 100's of NVG flight hours, all be it, 30 years ago, with PVS-5s. With the lights of the city, those PVS-5s would have been useless and I would not have attempted to use them. The newer ones would definitely be better, and the crew may have been required to use them regardless for the purposes of this flight as an NVG "Checkride."
I can say in my 40+ years of flying I have lost visual on an aircraft many times in the ground lights of big cities, especially at low altitude when you're at the same altitude. I believe the crew had IDed the wrong aircraft and the CRJ they hit was lost in the city lights.
re: Alright, my last topic for the day.
Posted by Chopper 2 on 10/1/09 at 5:24 pm to Emergent C Steve
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ESPN Sportszone is in Buckhead
Sorry, this one closed today.
Never mind.....
re: Tuesday Tiger Trivia -- Geographic Extremes (5/19/09)
Posted by Chopper 2 on 5/19/09 at 11:47 am to JPinLondon
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-- furthest East that LSU has played?
Chapel Hill, NC
re: On LSU Definites
Posted by Chopper 2 on 11/29/08 at 10:06 am to Mike da Tigah
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2) Les MUST replace those two DCs with a top notch DC, one who actually coaches hands on with the Defense, if he has any hope at all of righting this ship, retaining his recruits, and keeping this ball rolling. If not, then you can start the countdown to his demise, and then if we are fortunate enough, getting another Nick Saban of sorts to come in here and lock up the state again, and bring LSU back to where it belongs. If not, then buckle up for the rollercoaster. This is the fork in the road for Les Miles though. He's at the point right now where he's got the opportunity to illustrate his competance as the head man. Everyone is capable of making mistakes and even getting in a ditch you feel you can't escape from, and every time you struggle you get more bogged down. However, this is now his time to prove he's an overcomer and not a hard head ego maniac that has to prove it's his way or the hwy, and he's going to live and die with his committments. That doesn't win football games. We've seen it all too often in football, and at LSU in the past.
Great post and I agree. However, who will this defense savior be??? And will he be willing to come here??? I think LSU fans all to often think and expect that every person out there is just dying to be an LSU coach - I personally don't think so. This perfect individual may be out there, but can LSU get him here??? Getting him here may be as big a problem as finding him in the first place.
re: Happy Veterans Day...Service Member Roll Call
Posted by Chopper 2 on 11/11/08 at 10:21 am to Tiger HouTX
US Army Aviator
1980-2000
1980-2000
Was told before attending that if you couldn't cram 5 football seasons into 4 years of college then you weren't trying. Fortunately, I was successful at it. :nana:
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re: Excerpts of Auburn PRess conference
Posted by Chopper 2 on 9/21/08 at 4:13 pm to moock blackjack
Chet B. ???
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