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re: 30 year LEO weighs in on the ICE shooting in Minnesota
Posted on 1/11/26 at 7:14 am to sgallo3
Posted on 1/11/26 at 7:14 am to sgallo3
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sgallo3
You are either incredibly stupid - or just spamming the board.
Take a look at the highlighted paragraph of your post and re-read the (2) portion.
". . . or operated in a manner that threatens ...... the officer. . ."
The officer had a split second to respond to the sudden threat the driver presented.
please note:
THERE WAS NO TIME FOR EXTENDED ANALYSIS OF THE VARIOUS POSSIBILITIES THAT CAUSED THE EMERGENCY.
PERIOD
ANY armchair analysis of 'what-about-this-or-that' or rumination about 'what he could have done is a waste of time and energy.'
Consider this -
Suppose YOU are the cop and I am an idiot pretending to be drunk and apparently in the process of harassing people on the street.
Let's opine that you, as the cop, step closer to see if there are any threats being made by the 'drunk'.
Then just as you get within arms distance, the 'drunk' turns around suddenly points a pistol at your chest.
What do you do????
- engage him in conversation to determine his actual condition or plans?
- wait to see if he is really going to shoot you?
- wait until he actually cocks the hammer to take action?
- wait to see if the gun is actually loaded to take action?
- wait to see if the gun actually works properly to take action?
- wait to see if the episode was really a group practicing a scene for a play?
OR
you take immediate action to do the best you can to survive for the next 1/10 th of a second.
You know damned well that YOU - as much as you love being "compassionate" and "understanding" and "agreeing with anyone who hates Donald Trump" would do you best to eliminate that 'perceived' threat so that you could live for at least the next fraction of a second.
And what IF - you succeed = and the 'gun' turned out to be a toy that only dropped a flag that said "BANG" when you pulled the trigger.
And then every newspaper and talking head on the TV and radio and newspaper in the land ONLY defined you as
"The cop who murdered a lady practicing a kid's play"
Let that sink in.
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Posted on 1/11/26 at 7:14 am to ChineseBandit58
Mrs. Good knew what she was doing and it was directly related to immigration and tactics that she likely had been given or trained to directly impede, delay or obstruct the ICE agents orders. They were clearly trying to remove her from the obstruction of their performance at the time of her arrest. If you keep listening to Mayor or left wing media you will never understand any of this as the Mayor relies upon the illegal immigrants their families and sympathizers for votes and for campaign contributions. The liberal media will always take their side because their news is owned by rich socialist who have a socialist agenda for America. But if you continue to listen to it, like Russia gate, you will want to impeach the very President who is restoring greatness to America and was in no way involved with the tragedy in Minn. Unfortunately, and occasionally you will listen to enough of the legacy media and socialist Hollywood actors that you will really believe that you can act like this to your self demise like Mrs Good.
Posted on 1/11/26 at 7:27 am to sgallo3
You’re a dumbfrick. We need fewer people in our country like you. frick off.
Posted on 1/11/26 at 7:31 am to sgallo3
quote:
thats a danger we all face.
I agree. Those liberal retards have proven to be unpredictable and violent. Stay vigilant
Posted on 1/11/26 at 7:48 am to SirWinston
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I still think she was focused solely on the officer her left who was screaming at her and trying to open the door.
She was not trying to kill the guy in front - probably didnt know he was there.
Not blaming the officer at all this was clearly a FAFO situation.
Mother of 3 became so radicalized that she died for such a dumb reason as defending disgusting Somali fraudsters.
Thanks for this. It is pretty obvious to me, she was overwhelmed, since these people are used to FA'ing with absolutely no pushback or consequence.
Fight or Flight took over for an otherwise inexperienced, young person who injected herself in a police action and now wanted to get just far enough away to re-evaluate... perhaps to tell the story of how she 'showed them' while telling her favorite Starbucks Barista the story, while they give her a special virtue-signal discount on her Strawberry Frappuccino.
Her mistake. I just hate her car ended up rear-ending an innocent bystanders vehicle. Two new Car-Fax updates please - This should be the update on one: 'One owner - lesbian, white, social justice warrior who died at wheel but will haunt any conservative owner. Also note, vehicle upgraded to self-driving, mode 3... only active to a nearest polling locations during elections.
This will continue until these people realize the danger they are placing themselves in.
Also, Minneapolis police should be investigated (as noted earlier) ... did they receive a call, why were they not on-scene conducting crowd control (we know that answer). And finally, the City should be sued for this policy of selectively enforcing the law.
Posted on 1/11/26 at 7:53 am to rwestmore7
what payroll are you on eh?
Posted on 1/11/26 at 7:55 am to rwestmore7
quote:
Under federalism and the Tenth Amendment, states and local agencies cannot be compelled to enforce federal law,
They may not have to enforce it, but they can't obstruct the enforcement of it.
This is just like desegregation. The FBI and in some cases the military (Eisenhower sent the 101st Airborne division to Arkansas in 1957) was used to ensure that federal law was enforced when the states refused to do so regarding desegregation.
quote:
What makes this especially ironic is that many of the same people arguing on the other side of this issue are usually the loudest about states’ rights and the Tenth Amendment. You can’t praise state sovereignty when it suits you and then turn around and act shocked when states and cities exercise that authority to limit federal power in their own communities.
There is no hypocrisy. When a mayor or a governor declares that they will hide illegals or forcibly prevent ICE from arresting them (as several have done) they aren't simply refusing to enforce federal law, they are actively obstructing federal agents from being able to do so. They are literally aiding and abetting fugitives.
Posted on 1/11/26 at 8:00 am to rwestmore7
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An officer can’t bootstrap authority. If ICE has no lawful jurisdiction over a U.S. citizen in that moment, then there is no “lawful duty” being obstructed. Obstruction doesn’t give them new powers, it depends on the powers they already have.
Just think about this using common sense. Of course ICE has the authority to interdict against someone who is impeding them in their duties.
Posted on 1/11/26 at 8:04 am to Penrod
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Just think about this using common sense.
Sir. Sir! Don’t come flying in here at 8am with impossible challenges
Posted on 1/11/26 at 8:50 am to L.A.
Hunter said Brain hadn't ben in any life threatening situations. Not true he was at Starbuck once ordering his latte and they were out of soy milk
Posted on 1/11/26 at 9:35 am to BuckPshrink
Be loud and be wrong.
Being a federal LEO does not mean you have universal police powers everywhere for everything.
Federal authority is statute-based, not badge-based.
Being a federal LEO does not mean you have universal police powers everywhere for everything.
Federal authority is statute-based, not badge-based.
Posted on 1/11/26 at 9:36 am to Penrod
I’m not gonna continue to type the same things over and over. See my previous replies about why this is untrue.
Posted on 1/11/26 at 9:37 am to bluedragon
So are you saying that they believed that she was an illegal and that’s why they stopped her? Literally no one else is asserting that. Of course, if they actually had reasonable suspicion that she was an illegal it would have been justified stop. But that is not at all what they were doing and it’s not at all what they claim they were doing.
Posted on 1/11/26 at 9:38 am to themunch
Please tell me who to contact to get on a payroll
Posted on 1/11/26 at 9:51 am to rwestmore7
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I’m not gonna continue to type the same things over and over. See my previous replies about why this is untrue.
If you’re claiming that ICE cannot detain a U.S. citizen under certain circumstances (e.g., interfering with their duties or obstructing their enforcement proceedings), then you’re retarded. It doesn’t matter how many times you say it.
Posted on 1/11/26 at 10:20 am to Mo Jeaux
To be clear, I’m not saying ICE never detains U.S. citizens. We all know they do. I’m saying that whether they do it and whether they are legally authorized to do it in a given situation are two different questions. The issue here is not what happened in the moment. The issue is whether the law actually justified it.
Posted on 1/11/26 at 10:38 am to rwestmore7
That is true but this LEO was on way to serve a felony warrant. She knew it, she was pushed to confront. Tragic...
Posted on 1/11/26 at 10:58 am to BuckPshrink
I’m asking you to show me the statute where “confront”ing an ICE agent is a crime.
Posted on 1/11/26 at 11:26 am to rwestmore7
18 U.S. Code § 111 - Assaulting, resisting, or impeding certain officers or employees
U.S. Code
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(a) In General.—Whoever—
(1) forcibly assaults, resists, opposes, impedes, intimidates, or interferes with any person designated in section 1114 of this title while engaged in or on account of the performance of official duties;
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(a) In General.—Whoever—
(1) forcibly assaults, resists, opposes, impedes, intimidates, or interferes with any person designated in section 1114 of this title while engaged in or on account of the performance of official duties;
Posted on 1/11/26 at 11:30 am to rwestmore7
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The issue is whether the law actually justified it.
And it does.
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