re: $29 Billion Later, the Price of Gas Has Increased 62%

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Why?

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Because he would be lying

I mean you need a brain tramsplant

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Where did I state that you stated that you were concerned about the price of gas?

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Maybe I don’t understand the proper posting etiquette here. When you start a response to my post with a quote, I assume that the quote is from something I posted.

My apologies if I didn’t understand.

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Iran war costs (as of today) are $29 billion since the war began.

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Spent $180 Billion on Ukraine. We still got lots of bombing left to catch up

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Not that it would matter much if they did say exactly that. That's like saying, UtahCajun definitely has a shotgun and definitely has shells for it, but he's not loading it." Today. What if he decides to load it tomorrow?

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Not exactly like that, but if you want to say so, then ok.
Basically this says we can do pre-crime on a global scale. Ok, if that's what you want, but it does make us look like "the baddies" when we keep acting because we were spooked on some sort of WMD.

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Also, what if the intelligence we have access to is better than other intelligence agencies? What if we and Austria and Israel know something that other intelligence agencies don't know?

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Not aware of what Australia said. Do know what the EU, tUSA, tUK and pretty much every other 1st world country, with reliable intellegence agencies said. Isreal...take with a grain of salt. They have been saying "a few weeks away" for 25+ years. They sure are using this dust up to grab Christian lands in Lebanon though.

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Why is that incredible, then?

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Not incredible. It is par for the course.

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We're getting into territory here that we're simply not going to agree on because you're starting to expose the populist conspiracy conclusions that are obviously driving your selective assessment of this situation

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Almost are in agreement. Closer than you think. I am not much into conspiracy theories. I mostly go by "frick me once" type thing. We have been fricked several times, with the same story for some time now. Please forgive my skepticism.

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Really? What was the lie in WWI? WWII? History vindicated Korea and Vietnam when the USSR collapsed, as they were both part of the proxy war situation that ultimately bankrupted them. And the USSR was the greatest threat to all life on the planet in the 20th century

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I said lies or propaganda. I am sure you know about early propaganda used to try and pull us into both. Like the fabricated story they cooked up about Germany wanting Mexico to attack us so they could split up the spoils. They finally had to push Japan into attacking us, knew it was coming, and made zero attempts to stop it, just to get us in.

Both Korea and Vietnam were a bit more Chinese proxies, but there is no doubt tUSSR was a big player. We also used state funded terror in our proxy wars against tUSSR. That surely did not come back to bite us in 2001.

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We then embraced interventionism. Since then we've has zero World Wars, no nuclear weapons use, and no wars fought on our own soil

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I will give you the no world wars, but none of the others ever happened prior to us adopting globalism. Why is globalism the big baddie when others do it but fine for us? Why can we sponsor terror across the globe, but others cannot? You think it is because we are benevolent? We as a people maybe, but governments...not so much. Offensive wars of defense has driven several empires into the dustbin of history. We are closer than you think.

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O.k., thanks for disclosing that. I'll no longer take anything you say seriously

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If approached honestly, without sarcasm, I respond honestly and without sarcasm. You make the call. Not I. There are some here that I agree with 100%, but still do not like due to the way they respond in a trolling fashion. I just match it.

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We'll see. IMO if it sets Iran back 10 years it was a success. Then we'll have to do it again

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Wasn't this what we did in 2025? No one cares if we run targeted bombing missions without a protracted engagement. Hell, what we did last year proved very popular and President Trump's approvals went up. It is the protracted engagements with threats of a ground war that most are tired of. We just finished the longest military actions in our history. I do not believe the bulk of the people are ready for more.

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The alternative is that eventually Iran will get nuclear weapons and Iran and Israel will start using them on each other. 

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That would be Iran's destruction. They do not have modern delivery systems and have no way to get them. A total of 10 or 11 weapons with the delivery systems they have is not going to cut it. Do I want them to have it? No. I do not want us to have it, but the genie is out of the bottle. I do believe that there is tons of overhype, just as there was with North Korea and China before them and tUSSR before them. But I am more than willing to see us destroy it as we have done before.

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I’m just tired of half measures.

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No one sold the war to the American people before it began. When you operate that way, you get half measures. You also get boxed in like we are now. There is no political will to do what it takes to remove the regime. That will might have come after laying out the reason to do so and arguing the goals in the political arena.

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Because there has been no evidence presented of the alleged nuke development that has been two months away for the last 40 years.

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You mean no evidence outside of nuclear facilities buried deep within mountains, uranium enriched far beyond what is required for nuclear energy, and Iran claiming to have enough material for 11 bombs, right?

It's amazing how many times people repeat the same bullshite even after it's been debunked. Too many people only believe what they want to believe.