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re: $29 Billion Later, the Price of Gas Has Increased 62%

Posted on 5/22/26 at 8:04 am to
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5845 posts
Posted on 5/22/26 at 8:04 am to
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No wondering why your posts are riddled with ignorance. You cant comprehend what you read

I doubt anyone could comprehend what you type. Don't blame me. It is a you problem.

I did however comprehend that you lied by omission you little liar.
This post was edited on 5/22/26 at 8:06 am
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
68498 posts
Posted on 5/22/26 at 8:09 am to
Posted by deltadummy
Member since Mar 2025
2551 posts
Posted on 5/22/26 at 8:19 am to


Written by Trump himself, no doubt.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
12240 posts
Posted on 5/22/26 at 8:22 am to
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I see no mention of a terrorist state developing nukes.


Trump told us we obliterated their nuke capabilities and program during Operation Midnight Hammer. Remember that?
Posted by TigersBucs
Lake Charles
Member since Oct 2009
1815 posts
Posted on 5/22/26 at 8:26 am to
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And what was the price of oil under Biden after he gave a bunch of Dem donors and NGOs about $1 trillion through the Green New Deal SCAM?


It's always " buh, buh Biden"




Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98279 posts
Posted on 5/22/26 at 8:26 am to
Gave up and just name calling now

How shocking
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13585 posts
Posted on 5/22/26 at 8:28 am to
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I will keep posting this snippet


You can if you want.

I hope every time you do, someone posts this: LINK

And I have been saying this for years now. Only the people in the Situation Room have all the information, and most of it is information that you or I will never know or have, and the government controls all the access to it.

Is the government telling the truth about the uranium in your citation or is the news outlet I linked to reporting the more accurate information?

None of us know. That's the way it is now and that's the way it always has been and there's nothing new about it and it's inherent in the circumstances.

It was that way during WWI and WWII and Korea and Vietnam and Iraq and Afghanistan and every other conflict we've ever been in.

I've been accused of "blackpilling" by pointing that out, but it seems like a very obvious, self-evident observation to me.

It makes the question, "Should we be fighting Iran?" kind of an irrelevant question in all but the most extreme and/or transparent circumstances (which we don't have with this conflict). You'll almost certainly never know whether we should really be fighting Iran right now.

You can proceed according to your general pre-conceived conclusions about foreign intervention. You can just go with your feels on the matter. Long as you understand and admit (to yourself, mostly) that that's all you're doing.

But apart from that all we can collectively do is elect leaders we trust to be reasonable, because we will never know what they know about these interventions. That's why they call it "classified" information.

My assumption is that when our leaders do decide to engage, it's probably better if we win these interventions than that we lose them. So that's what I focus on. Not arguing a question I can't possibly know the answer to (nor can my opponent).
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173802 posts
Posted on 5/22/26 at 8:28 am to
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I see no mention of a terrorist state developing nukes. Why?

You'll also see no mention of that from any intelligence agency on the planet.

That's the question you should be asking.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13585 posts
Posted on 5/22/26 at 8:30 am to
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Trump told us we obliterated their nuke capabilities and program during Operation Midnight Hammer. Remember that?


He also told us that tariffs were for both returning manufacturing jobs AND replacing the income tax. Remember?

What is your point?
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13585 posts
Posted on 5/22/26 at 8:31 am to
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You'll also see no mention of that from any intelligence agency on the planet.


First of all, I'll bet you any amount of money you'd like to bet that that is not true.

Second, what intelligence agencies are you aware of who routinely share their findings openly on an international scale?
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
50089 posts
Posted on 5/22/26 at 8:33 am to
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I see no mention of a terrorist state developing nukes. Why?


Because RFK is full of crap.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
12240 posts
Posted on 5/22/26 at 8:36 am to
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What is your point?


Trump is full of shite and his sycophantic supporters on here will believe anything and everything he tells them to. Look no further than this thread as evidence.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13585 posts
Posted on 5/22/26 at 8:39 am to
I should probably wait to see if you'll take the sucker's bet, but it turns out that the IAEA has expressed concern about Iran's nuclear development over the past year, Austrian intelligence has reported that they were working on nuclear weapons in the past year, and of course, the one you should have known would be there, Israel.

And us, of course.

And also, of course, those are just the ones that have been made public.

"Intelligence" means mostly secret.
This post was edited on 5/22/26 at 8:42 am
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13585 posts
Posted on 5/22/26 at 8:40 am to
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Trump is full of shite and his sycophantic supporters on here will believe anything and everything he tells them to.


O.k.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5845 posts
Posted on 5/22/26 at 8:47 am to
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I hope every time you do, someone posts this

Every single person in the world knows Iran has the material. It is what they are doing with it and pretty much every intelligence agency says they are not enriching to weapons grade.
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And I have been saying this for years now. Only the people in the Situation Room have all the information, and most of it is information that you or I will never know or have, and the government controls all the access to

So are you saying they are lying to us on their own website? We do know they do that.
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Is the government telling the truth about the uranium in your citation or is the news outlet I linked to reporting the more accurate information?

The report, on the government website draws information from a UN 3rd party inspection group who has been monitoring Iran's material.

As said, our government has lied to us several times to pull us into needless war that benefits the MIC.
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It was that way during WWI and WWII and Korea and Vietnam and Iraq and Afghanistan and every other conflict we've ever been in

Every single time, they attempted to either lie or use propaganda to get us into action. At one time it was us conservatives keeping us from action. That seems to have changed. Many of us conservatives are more than ready to be globalists today.
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You can proceed according to your general pre-conceived conclusions about foreign intervention. You can just go with your feels on the matter. Long as you understand and admit (to yourself, mostly) that that's all you're doing.

I am just enjoying messing with neo-cons. Nothing more. 95% of this board are incapable of civil discourse. I learned that quickly so I just play along in my own way. Some call it trolling, that's fine. Most here are trolls anyway.
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My assumption is that when our leaders do decide to engage, it's probably better if we win these interventions than that we lose them. So that's what I focus on. Not arguing a question I can't possibly know the answer to (nor can my opponent).

This is a lose/lose action. We cannot win without ground force invasion amd ground force invasion, into Iraq, is not feasible and they know it.

Have an upvote for the well written response. I read all of it.
This post was edited on 5/22/26 at 8:49 am
Posted by redneck hippie
Oklahoma
Member since Dec 2008
6415 posts
Posted on 5/22/26 at 8:49 am to
The biggest concern is we’ll probably never see low gas prices again. The risk of Iran shutting down the strait is permanently baked into the market. It may be low, but it’ll never go back to zero
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5845 posts
Posted on 5/22/26 at 8:51 am to
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Is this true?

Seems true
Iran is making money off this
Posted by junkyarddawg3
Metro ATL
Member since Nov 2015
1338 posts
Posted on 5/22/26 at 8:54 am to
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It’s funny that the ones worried about the price of fuel, are the same ones that told us we needed to send as much of our tax dollars to fund Ukraine to fight Russia.


Why would one assume that?
Posted by junkyarddawg3
Metro ATL
Member since Nov 2015
1338 posts
Posted on 5/22/26 at 9:01 am to
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And what was the price of oil under Biden after he gave a bunch of Dem donors and NGOs about $1 trillion through the Green New Deal SCAM?


Why assume that anyone questioning or criticizing the actions of the current administration supported the previous administration?

If I am a person who supported / supports some, but not all of the actions of both administrations, my answer to you would be: I don’t give a shite what the price of oil was under the Biden administration. That’s in the past that nothing can be done about that.

I’m concerned about the price of oil right now. Comparing the past administration to the current administration is not an answer to my question or concern.

Please understand, the comments above don’t mean that I’m concerned about the price of gas right now. I’m really not. I’m just questioning your logic.
Posted by HC87
Coastal NC
Member since Dec 2014
5641 posts
Posted on 5/22/26 at 9:08 am to
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I see no mention of a terrorist state developing nukes. Why?


Because they were addressed last June. Trump and his administration repeatedly declared that the attacks had obliterated their nuclear program and set back its ability to make a nuclear weapon for years.

—“THE NUCLEAR SITES IN IRAN ARE COMPLETELY DESTROYED!”
Trump in a June 24, 2025, post on Truth Social.

The BS is getting old.



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