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re: 17-year-old is on life support after being shot by San Antonio officer at McDonald's

Posted on 10/12/22 at 6:58 am to
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
119610 posts
Posted on 10/12/22 at 6:58 am to
Muh small government!
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
Slaughter Swamp
Member since Jun 2012
18009 posts
Posted on 10/12/22 at 7:05 am to
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The story that was posted as proof is crap and biased. Was the guy in a stolen vehicle? That's all I want to know.



How about the story where the cop is arrested and will be charged with murder if the kid dies?

Did you read that story? Of course not. Too many boots to lick. You sound like a cop who doesn't actually try to do his job well, instead deciding to just stand around and trust his shitty instincts.


Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
11272 posts
Posted on 10/12/22 at 7:08 am to
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He wasn’t the reason why the cop was there.

Cop is on a call believes he saw a car that he was chasing the day before. I can agree it's probable he acted inappropriately. I can't agree that this isn't a criminal getting caught. Nothing had said whether this guy was in a stolen vehicle and running from the cops again. In fact it specifically says the opposite that they don't know. Folowing Weirdflex down a rabbit hole with half the info gets you more burned cities right before an election. Sorry that's offensive to the deep thinkers in the crowd.
This post was edited on 10/12/22 at 7:10 am
Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
11272 posts
Posted on 10/12/22 at 7:09 am to
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How about the story where the cop is arrested and will be charged with murder if the kid dies?

Doesn't answer the question in any way and you know it.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16322 posts
Posted on 10/12/22 at 7:10 am to
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this the kid who was told to get out the car? Instead he said why? then threw is in reverse and tried to drive away?
he walked up and jerked open the door and the kid freaked out. That's why police officers must identify themselves and approach with caution. It's also why this guy isn't a police officer anymore
This post was edited on 10/12/22 at 7:10 am
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
141305 posts
Posted on 10/12/22 at 7:10 am to
Three Philadelphia SWAT officers are in the hospital after being shot this morning trying while just trying to do their job.

Knowing what a stressful job they have, why not just comply?
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
38576 posts
Posted on 10/12/22 at 7:15 am to
Our society is overwhelmed with rebellious youth, Black and White. Blacks per the BLM 'narrative' feel justified in resisting "systematic racism" and many Whites are flat out psychologically dysfunctional for various cultural reasons. Both rebel against Authority, period; and given the real threat of violent resistance at any given point...what does LE do in response? Wait and risk being 'sucker punched'?

Our society becomes more violent by the day, and either designated LE authority draws a line and step in, or sooner or later it goes vigilante, and local communities devolve into 'war lord' scenarios.

This is like Covid, spreads like wildfire in a drought. Whatever we tolerate, we get more of. Period.
Posted by International_Aggie
Member since Oct 2012
1989 posts
Posted on 10/12/22 at 7:15 am to
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Knowing what a stressful job they have, why not just comply?


Comply with reasonable orders.

Imagine if you were in a parking lot at night, eating a burger when someone throws the door open, puts a gun at you, and shouts at you to get out. In that instant, would you “just comply?”
This post was edited on 10/12/22 at 7:17 am
Posted by Nurbis
Member since May 2020
2078 posts
Posted on 10/12/22 at 7:16 am to
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I’m not saying he deserves to get shot, but comply with the cops and you’ll never get shot/harmed.


Not true. Philando Castille complied and that cop panicked and shot him anyway. Some cops just suck.

I back cops the majority of the time but there was no reason the cop should have ever even pulled his firearm in this case. He needs to go to jail.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 10/12/22 at 7:19 am to
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Cops, like everyone else, make mistakes.
This officer was still in a 'probationary period' meaning he had almost no experience.

Maybe a more strenuous training period would have med for a better outcome.

Of course, these municipalities are cash strapped and stressed by the myriad of forces behind "defund"

Decisions this bad could only happen in this stressed state of affairs in which we find us.

Posted by Yeahright
On a big sphere out there.
Member since Sep 2018
2289 posts
Posted on 10/12/22 at 7:21 am to
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The police are not your friends. There's no such "thing" as the Thin Blue Line.


Wow. So you are one of those who think that all cops are bad people right? Ignorant is what you are. Cops see killings, rapes, OD's, child molesting and daily domestic disputes etc..... every single day. They are under stress. They see nothing but negativity daily. Bad things happen sometimes when us humans are under stressful situations. We need the police and they need a huge raise because very few people want to be in law enforcement any more. I would not want to live in a society without law enforcement.
Posted by Leotiger725
Member since Jan 2021
871 posts
Posted on 10/12/22 at 7:24 am to
There are bad/stupid police officers.

My whole family is in law enforcement. I love them but it annoys me that they are reluctant to call out fellow officers when they frick up.

But on the other hand, they are attacked openly in the public square all the time. I understand why they are defensive.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
38576 posts
Posted on 10/12/22 at 7:28 am to
PS: I agree with the sentiments that some people just can't cut it as cops. Psychological profiling in the hiring process can easily spot these; I could.

Cops should measure their own ability and understand that if they go over the justifiable line and do harm, they go to jail. I didn't watch the video but it sounds like this cop is headed just there.
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
14296 posts
Posted on 10/12/22 at 7:30 am to
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comply with the cops and you’ll never get shot/harmed.

Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
9126 posts
Posted on 10/12/22 at 7:37 am to
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he walked up and jerked open the door and the kid freaked out. That's why police officers must identify themselves and approach with caution. It's also why this guy isn't a police officer anymore


This is spot on. The officer never identified himself and instead of attempting to control the situation he went full escalation from the get-go.

All that kid saw was a gun pointed at him, not an officer of the law.
Posted by riverdiver
Summerville SC
Member since May 2022
2636 posts
Posted on 10/12/22 at 7:38 am to
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It sounds like the guy was running from the cops and got spotted the next day and then what? Seems a little fuzzy how we went from getting spotted to getting shot.


No. Apparently the previous night the police officer tried stopping a car, the driver got away.

The officer saw this car in the parking lot, yanked open the door and started issuing commands at gunpoint.

Problem was, it was a different car.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135378 posts
Posted on 10/12/22 at 7:41 am to
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I’m not saying he deserves to get shot
Then what are you saying? Because he was shot.
Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
11272 posts
Posted on 10/12/22 at 7:43 am to
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Problem was, it was a different car.

What says that?
Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
9126 posts
Posted on 10/12/22 at 7:45 am to
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The officer saw this car in the parking lot, yanked open the door and started issuing commands at gunpoint.


Imagine if he’d called for support, boxed the car in, and used caution instead of going straight Rambo. The kid would still be healthy and the officer’s life not ruined
Posted by funnystuff
Member since Nov 2012
8944 posts
Posted on 10/12/22 at 7:45 am to
The video of it is literally in the article


I get the news being untrustworthy and all, so defaulting to being skeptical is the appropriate response. But good god man, there are still in fact many things you can (very easily) confirm by yourself… this story is one of them.
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