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re: 16-Year-Old Hockey Player Dies on Christmas Day After Suffering Multiple Strokes

Posted on 12/28/22 at 4:46 pm to
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 12/28/22 at 4:46 pm to
Young healthy athletes have always died.

The new norm...
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173756 posts
Posted on 12/28/22 at 4:47 pm to
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Young healthy athletes have always died

He was diagnosed with a disease

i.e. not "healthy"
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173756 posts
Posted on 12/28/22 at 4:48 pm to
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How did we know 79K people died of/with Covid the week ending 4/11/20 by the end of that April?


Because it's pretty easy to identify when someone is dead?
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
10137 posts
Posted on 12/28/22 at 4:51 pm to
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Looking for this stuff and posting it is not healthy. You need to get some help.



That's cute. You actually think someone has to look for all these people suddenly dying.
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
10137 posts
Posted on 12/28/22 at 4:52 pm to
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Y'all are as bad as that LSUAngel person




GFY and get another booster. Fckg idiot.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22752 posts
Posted on 12/28/22 at 4:52 pm to
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Because it's pretty easy to identify when someone is dead?

I'm not the one suggesting it takes 3 years to get the data. You should have addressed crazy4lsu with your comment.
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
10137 posts
Posted on 12/28/22 at 4:54 pm to
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You dont know if he was vaccinated or not. You don't know if he ever had covid or not.


Oh we do know bc when theyre not jabbed (ie: Aaron Carter) it is mentioned in the article.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 12/28/22 at 4:58 pm to
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That's not how Covid was handled. And that's some of my argument. Still pushing back on the utter BS that was sold as "science" in 2020.


We can agree on that. And while I’m in strong favor of reorganizing public health so that it is far more transparent and trying to undo the complete regulatory capture, the process of science is still important.

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Besides, isn't evidence discovered by looking for it?


Sure, but often there is an in-between scenario where you have a complicated case and look up case reports to find a similar presentation. If that pattern were repeated enough, it’d be hard to hide the evidence let alone ignore it.

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for example, whether mRNA vaccines were contributing to early deaths for otherwise healthy people. But if by analyzing the data a correlation became apparent between vaccine status and sudden death incident rate, that might be worthwhile knowing and help focus work/research.


I agree, in principle, but it takes time to define discrete categories which can serve as a basis of comparison.

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How did we know 79K people died of/with Covid the week ending 4/11/20 by the end of that April?


So my experience is that the life table compilation will be more exhaustive, as the weekly and monthly data and the ultimate life table data won’t exactly match up, nor will the data from government statistic bureaus and government health organizations. I think some of the discrepancy is due to deaths being counted more than once, and each country has a different way of including non-citizen and citizen data, which can account for a small proportion of the discrepancy. I think the British data is a little easier to access, as the CDC changed formats recently (I think), but you can see that the week-to-week and month-to-month data is slightly different from the year-to-year data, and that was the case even before COVID. I made this realization looking for the excess death data, as different British organizations put out slightly different datasets.

The data that demographers use in the US is mostly from the life table data, but I’ll try to find a more concrete answer for the discrepancy between datasets between intra-national organizations. Maybe I made a mistake looking at the data initially. Ultimately, there are several thousands of way you could organize the data, and we are at the behest of several agencies, such as the CDC, who have variable trust amongst the populace.
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
10137 posts
Posted on 12/28/22 at 5:01 pm to
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He was diagnosed with a disease

i.e. not "healthy"



Uh huh... the social experiment injection had nothing to do with his death.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112894 posts
Posted on 12/28/22 at 5:04 pm to
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You got a suggestion of where the thread should be moved? Maybe the Money Board?

You think Political Talk is a better place than the OT board to discuss a 16 year old dying from a rare disease?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112894 posts
Posted on 12/28/22 at 5:05 pm to
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“We”? It’s down to “you”.
Judging from other posts in this thread, it's not just me.

Looks like you tried and read about as much as the OP did...which is not much.

Nice try though, good effort.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22752 posts
Posted on 12/28/22 at 5:06 pm to
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So my experience is that the life table compilation will be more exhaustive, as the weekly and monthly data and the ultimate life table data won’t exactly match up, nor will the data from government statistic bureaus and government health organizations. I think some of the discrepancy is due to deaths being counted more than once, and each country has a different way of including non-citizen and citizen data, which can account for a small proportion of the discrepancy. I think the British data is a little easier to access, as the CDC changed formats recently (I think), but you can see that the week-to-week and month-to-month data is slightly different from the year-to-year data, and that was the case even before COVID. I made this realization looking for the excess death data, as different British organizations put out slightly different datasets.

The data that demographers use in the US is mostly from the life table data, but I’ll try to find a more concrete answer for the discrepancy between datasets between intra-national organizations. Maybe I made a mistake looking at the data initially. Ultimately, there are several thousands of way you could organize the data, and we are at the behest of several agencies, such as the CDC, who have variable trust amongst the populace.

I think for the purposes of looking for a correlation, wouldn't the necessary info be available - if not readily, relatively quickly?
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
10137 posts
Posted on 12/28/22 at 5:07 pm to
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You think Political Talk is a better place than the OT board to discuss a 16 year old dying from a rare disease? ?



So you could RA it?
Posted by BigMob
Georgia
Member since Oct 2021
7625 posts
Posted on 12/28/22 at 5:15 pm to
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I've spoken with two tenured research biologists studying mRNA, and both said they wouldn't take the vaccine because the adverse effects could become apparent within 2-3 generations. Seems like some effects came sooner.


My sister-in-law is jabbed and is in a very high risk pregnancy. (Never had any problems spitting them out before) Her OB-GYN told her that since the jab came out, heart problems, gestational diabetes and babies with abnormally small bodies have all increased notably.

A renown oncologist told my father-in-law “there’s no way I’m sticking that bullshite in my body.”

My Secretary got myocarditis after the jab.

A triathlete female I work with clotted and nearly died after her jab.

Another co-worker’s teen daughter developed serious female problems after her jab.

People are freaking out of their minds to suggest there are no documented problems with this trash. There’s certainly no reason to give it to a young or middle-aged healthy person, for sure.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 12/28/22 at 5:18 pm to
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I think for the purposes of looking for a correlation, wouldn't the necessary info be available - if not readily, relatively quickly?


Yes, and that is likely true for any general macro trend.
Posted by GhostOfFreedom
Member since Jan 2021
13269 posts
Posted on 12/28/22 at 5:24 pm to
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The frick you do



You don't want us to know, because it helps you sleep better at night. You think you are safe from the poison you put in your body, if you ignore it and it isn't forced in front of you. Am I right?
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
73508 posts
Posted on 12/28/22 at 5:28 pm to
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hAppEnS AlL tHE TiMe tO sIXTeeN yEaR OLd aThLeTeS
moyamoya disease primarily affects children in his age group. Did you even read the OP or did you just see the word seizure and jump straight to vaccination status?

Really an interesting social experiment we’ve had the last couple years. First it was the crazy left calling every death a COVID death and now it’s the crazy right calling every death a vaccine death. Y’all are both crazy just at opposite ends of the spectrum.
This post was edited on 12/28/22 at 5:35 pm
Posted by GhostOfFreedom
Member since Jan 2021
13269 posts
Posted on 12/28/22 at 5:29 pm to
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He was diagnosed with a disease

i.e. not "healthy"


Healthy until maybe the covid poison jab?
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22752 posts
Posted on 12/28/22 at 5:32 pm to
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Yes, and that is likely true for any general macro trend.

I'm very curious to see what's legit going on. There are some scientists (data guys) that I read that proved very insightful about the virus that, even back then, predicted "Covid response" would kill (legit kill) more people than the virus would, and they now think it's going to be by a multiple. They're considering everything from increased drug ODs due to lockdown-related depression, suicides, to delayed cancer diagnosis/treatment. They believe data already suggests the vaccines will end up killing a substantial number of people.
Posted by Chrome
Chromeville
Member since Nov 2007
13302 posts
Posted on 12/28/22 at 5:32 pm to
All I feel is a huge swell of sadness for the family who lost their young child on Christmas Day. They will never feel the same way about Christmas again.
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