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re: 16-Year-Old Hockey Player Dies on Christmas Day After Suffering Multiple Strokes

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Posted by LakeCharles
USA
Member since Oct 2016
5424 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 3:08 pm to
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What we can definitively say is that there is no evidence that Covid-19 vaccines cause any wide excess deaths, despite voluminous research attempting to find a correlation or causal link. Were the link strong (or evident, or more than conspiracy theory) we would have expected to see it by now, given the population who have been exposed and studied post-exposure.


You may want to look into the analysis presented here -

EthicalSkeptic, twitter


Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
28501 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 4:25 pm to
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You attempting to politicize the unfortunate death… disgusting




The caucasity to do such a thing, eh komrade? Liberals would never do something as disgusting as make an actual political campaign with such low brow accusations.

Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173753 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 4:26 pm to
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Liberals would never do something as disgusting as make an actual political campaign with such low brow accusations.


Are you actually dumb enough to think I support such messaging?

That's a rhetorical question. Of course you are.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 4:55 pm to
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You may want to look into the analysis presented here -


They may want to present some actual analysis, first.
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
28161 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 4:59 pm to
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P.S. Any "excess deaths we've experienced in the last 12-18 months" are due to the global pandemic, not the vaccine


You guys still counting hit and run deaths as covid? Overdoses? Suicides? Cancer? Run of the mill flu (oh wait...did that come back?)??
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22726 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 5:19 pm to
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Your lack of understanding here brings us back to my initial point. We can't design a scientific study to prove a negative - that's not how it works.

What we can definitively say is that there is no evidence that Covid-19 vaccines cause any wide excess deaths, despite voluminous research attempting to find a correlation or causal link. Were the link strong (or evident, or more than conspiracy theory) we would have expected to see it by now, given the population who have been exposed and studied post-exposure.

Funny how you're quick to throw shade on others understanding/intelligence, and here's the second post in a row where you allude to "voluminous research" that establishes there in no evidence of vaccine-related excess death, and you've yet to link anything.

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P.S. Any "excess deaths we've experienced in the last 12-18 months" are due to the global pandemic, not the vaccine

That's not true. No matter how you fill the vacuum that is "study of vaccines and excess death" there is more than enough evidence that there's been substantial excess due to Covid response, which is different from the virus itself.
This post was edited on 12/29/22 at 5:24 pm
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22726 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 5:21 pm to
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They may want to present some actual analysis, first.

Honestly, are you unfamiliar with the ES's work?

Ethical Skeptic
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
10137 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 5:24 pm to
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They may want to present some actual analysis, first.

So you’re willfully ignorant.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 5:24 pm to
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Honestly, are you unfamiliar with the ES's work?


Honestly, what 'work'? The anonymous guy has some charts on twitter - that show an increase in deaths just as a global pandemic hit.

I'm shocked by his powers of observation, and his ability to search the CDC site?
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22726 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 5:25 pm to
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Honestly, what 'work'? The anonymous guy has some charts on twitter - that show an increase in deaths just as a global pandemic hit.

Have you read through his work. It's a simple question. I don't mean a tweet or two. Are you familiar with his work on Covid going back to the early days of the pandemic?
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 5:25 pm to
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"voluminous research" that establishes there in no evidence of vaccine-related excess death, and you've yet to link anything.


Do you really need a tutorial in google? Pubmed is right there, and very easy to search.

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here is more than enough evidence that there's been substantial excess due to Covid response


Link? Because this is your opinion, but also factually incorrect.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22726 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 5:28 pm to
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Link? Because this is your opinion, but also factually incorrect.

So spikes in suicides, drug ODs - just two examples, those are because the (excess) people that killed themselves/abused drugs got Covid, or was it because of the retarded lockdowns, etc?
This post was edited on 12/29/22 at 5:29 pm
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