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re: 16-Year-Old Hockey Player Dies on Christmas Day After Suffering Multiple Strokes
Posted on 12/28/22 at 1:26 pm to NYNolaguy1
Posted on 12/28/22 at 1:26 pm to NYNolaguy1
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I seem to remember when the poliboard told me that the doctors were in on the absurdity and to not listen to them.
Most doctors take what they are given and run with it. My doctor did this. He never told me to take the vaccine, but it was apparent that he did not have a problem with it. On my last visit, he was OK with my continued use of Ivermectin but he did caution me on taking Hydroxychloroquine based on an intentionally biased CDC or NIH study. I'm not sure that the patient being more familiar with the study methodology than the doctor is the best situation, but it's the situation I have for the moment. My Dr. is a bright guy and he will come around eventually.
On the actual "science" side of the debate you have Dr.s and scientists on the pro-vaccine side and equally qualified Dr.s and scientists against it. Those against it are silenced, terminated from their positions, and demonized in the media so they appear to be cranks. This is not how scientific debate arrives at a scientific outcome and I am convinced that in the case of this novel mRNA vaccine the lack of true scientific debate will lead the world to a situation where hundreds of millions of people will have their lives negatively affected for a long time. Death, long term illness, strokes, cancer, and destroyed immune systems.
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Posted on 12/28/22 at 1:27 pm to oogabooga68
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Then honestly, Social Media probly isn't for you.
You see, people post all sorts of silly, serious, crazy, not-crazy things .
You need to grow upand decide if you're mature enough to handle the differing viewpoints and moodswings of a bunch of anonymous people who don't take this shite as seriously as you do.
first it's ok to be post total BS and made up nonsense because you (and some unknown cohort) are fighting for survival. Then other people need to grow up because you don't take it as seriously as other people. Never change poliboard, Idiocracy get closer by the minute here.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 1:29 pm to oogabooga68
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When they decided every death was BY Covid instead of WITH Covid, the game was forever altered.
So you see people doing retarded shite and come to the conclusion you must also do the same retarded shite?
Posted on 12/28/22 at 1:30 pm to LSU2ALA
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Whatever makes you feel better. Truthfully, I don’t think about it at all. To really blow your mind, I got a booster in late November, and I’m not dead yet! My wife is a physician. I have friends who are physicians. I’ll trust their advice over random Internet Ghost Man.
I've spoken with two tenured research biologists studying mRNA, and both said they wouldn't take the vaccine because the adverse effects could become apparent within 2-3 generations. Seems like some effects came sooner.
Who to believe...
Posted on 12/28/22 at 1:36 pm to i am dan
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I've spoken with two tenured research biologists studying mRNA, and both said they wouldn't take the vaccine because the adverse effects could become apparent within 2-3 generations. Seems like some effects came sooner.
Within 2 generations of what?
Posted on 12/28/22 at 1:37 pm to Powerman
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You think they just made that up? You attempting to politicize the unfortunate death of this young man is pretty disgusting
It’s hard to know what it means when they say “moyamoya disease.” It could mean actual moyamoya disease, which is idiopathic and likely genetic.
It could mean moyamoya syndrome, which looks very much the same and can be caused by any number of things. Commonly sickle cell, which wouldn’t be the case here, but the list is long and includes genetic disorders, infections, vasculitis.
The terms are used interchangeably in the medical field. So who knows in this case.
This post was edited on 12/28/22 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 12/28/22 at 1:40 pm to NYNolaguy1
It's Social Media....stop taking it so personally.
It's...not....real......life.....
It's...not....real......life.....
Posted on 12/28/22 at 1:41 pm to Powerman
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There are 0 facts here that point to this death having anything to do with the vax
Have you seen a news story of a person suddenly dying from a cardio or vascular event, and it was determined that the sole cause of death was the vaccine or boosters?
I don't remember seeing one. We just hear myocarditis, and they never say the vaccine caused the death.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 1:44 pm to bayoucracka
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Pfizer side effects. Oops.
Well... ummmm...
That's interesting.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 1:45 pm to i am dan
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I don't remember seeing one. We just hear myocarditis, and they never say the vaccine caused the death.
Myocarditis is generally self-limited, but there's also a good reason why no evidence has been presented that the vaccine caused the death, save for a few scenarios like the the man with the Vein of Galen malformation.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 1:46 pm to Powerman
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No. And even if he did the incidence of that side effect is likely extremely rare.
Point is jumping to conclusions that this is a vax death with literally 0 information to support that claim is complete ignorance.
Is anyone claiming that, or are we just concerned and asking questions?
Some of us like to ask questions rather than spreading our legs for the govt to force frick us.
You can lay there all spread eagle if you want.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 1:47 pm to bayoucracka
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Do you know that he didn’t?
Oh man, we're scraping this level now? Woof.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 1:49 pm to Powerman
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That isn't a Pfizer study
But no matter what the study is you're just going to believe whatever you want because you aren't a reasonable person
Who funded the study?
I get your point, but any study can be doctored, especially when nobody questions the results.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 1:51 pm to crazy4lsu
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Are you are saying it doesn't have a genetic predisposition?
30-40% of cases are genetic according to google.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 1:52 pm to i am dan
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Is anyone claiming that, or are we just concerned and asking questions?
Most of the questions are exceedingly retarded and can be explained by understanding some basic aspects of immunology. What is interesting is that this genre of people don't seem to have object permanence, so they just keep repeating idiotic questions over and over.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 1:54 pm to i am dan
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30-40% of cases are genetic according to google.
UpToDate says differently, but also you might be confusing the disease with the syndrome. The disease is strongly associated with RNF213 gene on chromosome 17q25.3, among other loci. The syndrome is associated with several genetic diseases, as well as some disease states.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 2:15 pm to crazy4lsu
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so they just keep repeating idiotic questions over and over.
I may have missed it, but I haven't seen an answer to the question asked a couple of times in this thread (and others).
If we were seeing a spike in the incidence of death caused by heart disease/cancer/etc brought forward by the vaxx the same way we saw the vast majority of "Covid deaths" - do you believe the CDC/medical industry would be rushing out to tell the American public about it?
Posted on 12/28/22 at 2:28 pm to David_DJS
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If we were seeing a spike in the incidence of death caused by heart disease/cancer/etc brought forward by the vaxx the same way we saw the vast majority of "Covid deaths" - do you believe the CDC/medical industry would be rushing out to tell the American public about it?
Well, you need a very specific pattern of molecular injury with proof from histopathology of a disease process that was linked directly to the vaccine, outside of some immediate type of injury. Even in such cases, such as with thalidomide, Widukind Lenz started publishing case reports linking the drug to its teratogenic effects in 1956, with the wider community agreeing with his findings around 1961. It would take time, and the work would have to be sterling and impeccable, but it could definitely be done, just not on timescales that might satisfy people.
I don't discount the possibility of someone presenting that information in the style of argumentation that would be convincing to scientists, but there would absolutely be some type of resolution, regardless of your belief on how much the pharmaceutical industry controls its regulatory agencies. There would definitely be efforts on the part of pharmaceutical companies to suppress that information as well, but the arguments should stand for themselves. As of yet, in all the anti-vaccine articles I've read, rarely has there been an actual convincing argument or evidence presented.
Outside of that, at this point, we have supposed vaccine-related deaths without a consistent presentation, in a wide variety of patient cohorts, with no characteristic finding on labwork or on physical exam. Every vague ailment supposedly has a vaccine-related cause, and just in this thread, we have posters assuring us we will see effects of the vaccine in '2-3 generations,' which is an immensely hilarious claim.
So to answer your question more succinctly, yes there would be effort on the part of researchers to reveal the truth, which is an answer that probably won't really satisfy anyone.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 2:31 pm to crazy4lsu
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Well, you need a very specific pattern of molecular injury with proof from histopathology of a disease process that was linked directly to the vaccine, outside of some immediate type of injury.
You're overthinking and avoiding my question. It's a hypothetical.
If we were seeing a spike in the incidence of death caused by heart disease/cancer/etc brought forward by the vaxx the same way we saw the vast majority of "Covid deaths" - so assume it's happening just the way it did with the virus itself.
Given the above, do you believe the CDC/medical industry would be rushing out to inform the American public about the dangers/risks of the mRNA Covid vaccines?
Posted on 12/28/22 at 2:35 pm to David_DJS
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You're overthinking and avoiding my question. It's a hypothetical.
No, I'm just framing it in terms that would be convincing for scientists and doctors.
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If we were seeing a spike in the incidence of death caused by heart disease/cancer/etc brought forward by the vaxx the same way we saw the vast majority of "Covid deaths" - so assume it's happening just the way it did with the virus itself.
Given the above, do you believe the CDC/medical industry would be rushing out to inform the American public about the dangers/risks of the mRNA Covid vaccines?
Yes.
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