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re: Yall ever try the “Ikejime” Japanese way of killing fish?

Posted on 3/15/25 at 2:04 pm to
Posted by Redfish2010
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 3/15/25 at 2:04 pm to
On redfish, you can put your finger right behind the pectoral fin. Super easy push. They’ll bleed right out. If you compare them side to side the meat is a little less bloody on ones that you don’t do it to.
Posted by LouisiAnimalMgD
Virginia
Member since Aug 2010
557 posts
Posted on 3/15/25 at 2:13 pm to
I spent 9 years in Okinawa and deckhanded on the weekends. Ike Jima is the best method and what we did to all kept fish. Well minus any Marlin that were kept. The captains had a metal baseball bat for them.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 3/15/25 at 2:54 pm to
Dang, this would definitely change the way I watch the Bassmaster Classic..
Posted by misterc
St. George
Member since Sep 2014
740 posts
Posted on 3/16/25 at 8:38 am to
We do it on the Pelagics we boat. Run a wire cable through the spinal cord and your stop the nerves from firing through the meat immediately. I can tell a difference in the meat quality, fish stays firmer longer. I also get my fish in an ice slurry right after then immediately vacuum packed when cut. I've noticed it seems to keep Tuna\Swords at a higher quality when frozen for extended times.

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Posted by Mr Sausage
Cat Spring, Texas
Member since Oct 2011
15514 posts
Posted on 3/16/25 at 9:55 am to
when we keep redfish, we cut their throats and drain the blood. It makes a difference.
Posted by speckledawg
Somewhere Salty
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 10:31 am to
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when we keep redfish, we cut their throats and drain the blood. It makes a difference.


I usually just punch a hole behind the pec fin, but yes, it definitely makes a difference.
Posted by CHEDBALLZ
South Central LA
Member since Dec 2009
23108 posts
Posted on 3/16/25 at 5:04 pm to
I don't do that but I do use a big chest, with plenty of ice. When I get to the saltwater ill dump a 5-gallon bucket of water in the chest. Throw my fish in, the swim down and get cold almost instantly. They also are all straight when you go to clean them. I find it makes a difference. If I fished offshore I would contemplate doing the Japanese method.
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
24147 posts
Posted on 3/16/25 at 5:43 pm to
I figure if I try to stab 50 flopping bluegill, I'll probably end up stabbing myself at least once.
Posted by RandRules
Member since Mar 2025
262 posts
Posted on 3/16/25 at 6:08 pm to
Cut the gills as soon as you catch any fish. It will bleed out and the meat will be blood free. It absolutely makes a difference
Posted by RandRules
Member since Mar 2025
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 6:15 pm to
To clarify previous post, you need to cut the artery that supplies the gills with blood. It runs right underneath the throat behind gills
Posted by LSUintheNW
At your mom’s house
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 7:00 pm to
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When I went ocean Salmon fishing in Ketchikan Alaska,the guide would whack them in head with a fish billy and then slash the gills with a filet knife to bleed them.He said they tasted better to drain the blood before icing them down.


He’s right. I do the same with all my fish. He’s just stunning them with a whack. The heart is pumping the blood out.




This post was edited on 3/16/25 at 7:06 pm
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 3/17/25 at 8:19 am to
A thumped cobia tastes 100 times better than one thrown straight in the box.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
71122 posts
Posted on 3/17/25 at 8:22 am to
Not to mention the reduced risk of death and destruction from having it come off the gaff on the deck
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 3/17/25 at 8:31 am to
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Ran across this over coffee this morning: LINK

Short version is that in Japan fisherman will kill the fish immediately after catching them by stabbing them in their brain and immediately draining most their blood out in cold water. It is said to dramatically improve the taste and preserve freshness due to less stress hormones being pumped through the fish’s body.

Yall think it’s worth it or a bunch of BS? Kinda want to try next time I’m out.


Yes, bleeding fish makes all fish better eating. Its a pretty common practice. Its a simple process. It is required in most of Europe as it is a relatively humane way to dispatch a fish....far better than it suffocating. I do it with almost all fish I keep.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 3/17/25 at 8:33 am to
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Well u guess if you are offshore catching YFT it could be some kind of benefit. But I’m not going to to stab 100 crappie when they biting. It’s interesting but not very practical.


No need to stab them...reach in their gills and snap the artery and toss them on ice. They die almost instantaneously and the fillets are far firmer and better tasting. Even better to throw them in a salt and ice brine....
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 3/17/25 at 8:38 am to
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I used to fish a lot offshore with a buddy that insisted we do it. Logically it didn’t make sense to me since we had just got finished fighting the fish in the fight of his life for 30-90mins what was one or two more mins after a clubbing gonna hurt.


Without bleeding them the blood and the adrenaline and other hormones are still impacting the quality of the meat. It doesn't matter if it is a 1000 pound bluefin tuna or a 10 ounce bluegill they ALL fight to near death, the difference is they are overwhelmed by tackle as a one pound crappie where a 100 pound amberjack is not...but either way they have hormones cursing through their flesh which will hasten that flesh breaking down after death...unless it is bled out.

This is also true of releasing fish....catch and release is not nearly as effective as we would like to believe...fighting for your life, particularly in an environment thick with predators, is not conducive to long term survival. The act of catching and fighting a fish on light tackle, while certainly fun for the angler, is a life and death struggle for the fish even when handled and released properly....the aftermath is all too often the same for the released fish as the one released in the cooler....
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 3/17/25 at 8:43 am to
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How do you wring a fish's neck?


He was catching some type of trout and most of them were 10-12" in length.
He'd stick his thumb in the mouth, then a quick snap to one side. The backbone would break, and the fish was dead.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83226 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 12:30 am to
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On redfish, you can put your finger right behind the pectoral fin. Super easy push.


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Redfish2010

Now we know your weakness
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23436 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 2:18 am to
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No need to stab them...reach in their gills and snap the artery and toss them on ice. They die almost instantaneously and the fillets are far firmer and better tasting. Even better to throw them in a salt and ice brine


This isn’t Ike Jime what the OP was talking about. Ike Jime is the act of taking a spike to a fish’s brain. Shankei Jime is the act of taking a wire to the spinal cord. Then bleeding is on top of that.
Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
4680 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 10:16 am to
I've never done the braining and bleeding of fish before reading this thread. Yesterday I got on the spawning bar fish thick like and did all of them this way. The few fillets I ate last night were great. Have no idea if the ikejime method made them better or not but I'll probably continue to do it like this from now on.

I will caution that braining gets kinda violent for a couple seconds so be ready. Most of the fish I was catching were males oozing jizz. The first few I brained in my kayak splashed that shite everywhere. After the first few I got tired of giving myself a bukkake I started holding them over in the water and brained them there.
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