re: Would you be for more stringent gun license requirements

No, because owning a gun is a right not a privilege.

What I want is for the government to uphold the laws already in place.

They should report all gun barring activity to the NICS. (Domestic violence, felonies, drug offenses, etc.)

Prosecute and penalize those lying on the form 4473.

Judges to properly punish those involved with crime using firearms.

Your vote is not the same as your right to vote. We do not have vote registration. In fact we have secret ballots. If we had vote registration then the govt would record how you voted in every election.

Voter registration is just the process used to determine if someone is eligible to vote. I believe this process is antiquated because of new technology. A person could move after registering. They could become a felon. Any number of things could happen. That's why I propose we use a system where you show up to the polls with a govt issued ID as proof of who you are and proof of address. Then complete a simple form that asks a few questions and pay your $10 to have a database check done to determine if you are indeed eligible to vote. After you pass, you're allowed to vote.

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Where to people think criminals' guns originate??

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Factories. But, most criminals steal or otherwise illegally purchase their guns on the street. That's not speculation - that's a fact.

They can't pass a background check, so they can't go to the counter at Academy.

Yes, I would support it. I have basic intelligence, am responsible with a clean record and no mental health issues.

Felons can't own guns, nor should people with diagnosed mental illness.

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No, because owning a gun is a right not a privilege.

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Wrong.

Rights cannot be revoked. Privilege can. Privilege to drive, privilege to vote, and yes, privilege to own a firearm.

And don't get worked up on the literal wording of the second amendment. That right is for a state to establish a militia and has never been overturned in Congress or the Courts. However, an individual's right to own a firearm has been.

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If you had more unregulated gun laws after you had a license? I was reading where New Zealand had legal suppressors, but stringent requirements to obtain a license. I feel like taking a firearm class, personal interview, and showing a baseline intelligence would be worth it if I could have more gun freedoms post that initial process.

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AUCE05, I'm going to assume you're looking for an honest discussion, not trolling to start a fight. I can appreciate an honest dialog; as a country, we don't openly discuss things enough anymore.

In a perfect world, I could live w/ some of your suggestions. BUT, this is a highly IMPERFECT world. I believe the majority of dems/liberals/progressives hate ALL guns and would ultimately like to reduce gun ownership by civilians to nearly zero. They wouldn't hesitate to use "gun safety", "reduction in gun violence", "school safety" or any of a number of other laudible phrases to accomplish their goal. Likewise, they'd jump at the opportunity to require "sensible" gun licensing requirements to further their agenda. They'd love to have the cooperation of "reasonable" gun owners, "safety advocates" and other well meaning souls like yourself to pass such licensing requirements. But, even if something were passed now that I could actually live w/ (very unlikely), I promise you that it would continually be under attack w/ future recs for even more restrictions. Gun violence will never end in our country because of evil in the heart of some. The left will always respond to criminal gun violence w/ calls for even more "sensible" gun safety laws (since they've never seen a gun they like anyways). Eventually you'd no longer recognize the sensible gun licensing requirements you happily agreed to.

As far as mental health and gun ownership, that's a VERY slippery slope. I think everyone would agree that the mentally ill should not own guns, but how (and WHO) will that be defined? Again, do you honestly think you can trust the dems to not use mental health questionaires, prescription drug history use, interviews and such to advance their unquenchable hunger for more gun control? I know a lot of health care providers (MD's, nurse practitioners and physician assistants). Although I generally like all of them, I don't want a system where they are put in control of my 2A rights. We've seen lately how allowing one's personal politics in the FBI has caused a lot of problems.

Call me whatever you want to, but I'll always be proud to be called an American gun owner. Stepping off soap box.

PSA: Now I need to renew my NRA membership.

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freedom is revoked every day to people who violate laws.

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Okay, and that is why we have laws, law enforcement and a judicial system.

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Honestly, fixing this would go the furthest toward stopping these mass shooting.

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Agreed. I heard on a news show that currently the statues to report mental health issues to the data base are optional on a state by state basis. That was the first I'd heard that so I don't know if it's true or not. Regardless, health care workers have have been warned about the threat "HIPAA violation" so much that many are afraid to share any mental health information.

Bump. Trump's proposal and actions by Wal-Mart and Dicks illustrate what I was meaning by this thread. Right's are being taken, and public outcry is shifting away from gun culture. We need to dictate how this plays out, not be dictated to.