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re: whats the outdoor boards opinion on pit bulls?

Posted on 2/25/12 at 12:25 am to
Posted by Who Me
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Posted on 2/25/12 at 12:25 am to
I haven't read all through this thread either.



I'm sure they can be great pets but how can the numerous children that have been mauled and killed by pits be simply chalked up to an array of excuses. As a parent or any responsible adult I don't see how this can be ignored and I would not be comfortable if I discovered a neighbor owned one considering I have small children.
Posted by INFIDEL
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Posted on 2/25/12 at 12:33 am to
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I'm sure they can be great pets but how can the numerous children that have been mauled and killed by pits be simply chalked up to an array of excuses. As a parent or any responsible adult I don't see how this can be ignored and I would not be comfortable if I discovered a neighbor owned one considering I have small children.



I understand this sentiment, and somewhat Identify with it, I guess. What does need to be said, however is that the publicity garnered by "pitbull" attacks aren't always pitbulls. Additionally, attacks by other breeds garner much less attention. Then when you take you take into consideration the concentration of "pitbull breeds" that are committing said attacks compared to the concentration of other breeds in the same areas, I don't think you will find that the incidence is any more regular then attacks from breeds such as german shepherds or Dobermans in the 70s when their numbers surged.
Posted by faxis
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Posted on 2/25/12 at 12:35 am to
I'd rather have most pit bulls than ANY chow.
Posted by INFIDEL
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Posted on 2/25/12 at 12:39 am to
Once again, Faxis spreads wisdom to the OB.

What I will say is this. I chow will bit EVERY TIME. But this is the kicker. I chow will usually bite backing up. In other words, you put him in a corner and he's going to come out teeth first. That is rarely the problem with a pit. If a pit is going to be problem, he's going to be and agressive problem.
Posted by Who Me
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Posted on 2/25/12 at 12:41 am to
How much bias do you think pit owners have towards the breed b/c they have had positive experiences with them as pets? I just know that people often have stong feelings of emotion and attachment to their dogs of any breed. How much of that could unreasonably affect someones view on the matter?


Posted by INFIDEL
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Posted on 2/25/12 at 12:42 am to
Once again. I can't describe the love I have for the breed. I was raised with them. I give to multiple charities for them. I have stood on my soap box for them. However, I know what they are.
Posted by faxis
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Posted on 2/25/12 at 12:48 am to
Chows have a disturbing tendency to murder babies. For real. Not being sarcastic. Know a family that happened to. Completely unprovoked. Went out of it's way to do it. They'd owned that dog for years.
Posted by INFIDEL
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Posted on 2/25/12 at 12:50 am to
I think the biggest mistake people make is seeing "pits" as one breed. The fail to understand that different lines of dogs have been bred to perform different tasks. In doing so, different traits have been nurtured. In hat's example, a lab retrieves. The problem is, some labs sniff bombs or drugs. Those labs don't retrieve so well. We took what they were bred to do and modified it fit our needs. People have taken pits and modified them to do what we need. Hunt pigs, for example. Those dogs are rarely dog or people agressive. The can't be to do their jobs. Some are bred to fight other dogs. you get the rest.
Posted by INFIDEL
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Posted on 2/25/12 at 12:51 am to
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Chows have a disturbing tendency to murder babies. For real. Not being sarcastic. Know a family that happened to. Completely unprovoked. Went out of it's way to do it. They'd owned that dog for years.



I believe what you're saying. Chows are crazy as shite. You can add Sharp Heis in that conversation.
Posted by Who Me
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Posted on 2/25/12 at 12:58 am to
I will say this. I distrust pits more than others.

Having said that I would be no less concerned with any other stange large dog around my family. I'm not the kind of person that's gonna shoot a pit just b/c I see one but I would put any animal down with a quickness if I deemed it to be a threat.
Posted by faxis
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Posted on 2/25/12 at 1:00 am to
It got it out of it's crib while the mom was napping by pulling it through the bars then killed it and left it.

frick a Chow. I've met Pits I liked. I've never met a chow I would trust to even turn my back on.
Posted by INFIDEL
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Posted on 2/25/12 at 1:25 am to
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frick a Chow. I've met Pits I liked. I've never met a chow I would trust to even turn my back on.




THis is almost true for me. Back in my vet tech days I knew exactly one chow I trusted. It was from a show line and was a sweet animal. Out of all the years I was in a vet clinic I probably trusted pits, as whole, not to be biters. They really are great dogs. The problem comes when you have a bad one. The are actually few and far between, but when they are bad they are nightmares. They don't bite to hurt, they bite to kill and they are built for it. If I had one I trusted I would trust my baby with it and that is saying a lot. If I had one I didn't trust, I would put a bullet in him. And I've done just that. Dogs are great. Babies are the world and no dog is worth the well being of a child. Period.
Posted by faxis
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Posted on 2/25/12 at 2:25 am to
In a perfect world Chows would be shot on sight.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 2/25/12 at 6:43 am to
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In a perfect world Chows would be shot on sight.




Ive only been around one, and it was a good dog.

My old man has seen a few and he agrees with you big time though.
This post was edited on 2/25/12 at 6:44 am
Posted by tigerfan1180
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Posted on 2/25/12 at 7:28 am to
I used to have 2 pits. The male we had was a big baby. After I had my son we got rid of the female bc she started showing tendencies we didn't like. When my son was s baby the male would go where ever my son went. He would lay next to him on the floor or next to his crib. Having said that, I would never leave my son alone with him. I was always right there.
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 2/25/12 at 7:40 am to
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I don't like em. They have their place. Mainly catching hogs or kept in a cage.

I don't like things I can't trust. I can't trust a pit bull no matter how "harmless, gentle, sweet etc" they are.
This. There are several breeds of dogs(Look at the list of banned ones in other countries) that I would love to never see on our streets again. Not much scares me more than an Akita. I'd take on Squatch himself and 3 black panthers first.
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 2/25/12 at 7:41 am to
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In a perfect world Chows would be shot on sight
Yes. The silent biter. other bad breeds at least bark a little first.
Posted by Ole Geauxt
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Posted on 2/25/12 at 8:10 am to
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put a bullet in him. And I've done just that.
i'm dang glad you shot him with an 08, cause it would have probly got up and bit you, if it had been hit with a 243..
Posted by FISH N TIGER
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Posted on 2/25/12 at 8:12 am to
I know a few people that have Pits and they are very careful who they let them around. I also know of 2 Pits that one was put down for killing 2 dogs and biting 3 people, one being a room mate of the owner who has been with the dog since a pup. The Other Pit was shot on site after it got out and went into a neighbors back yard and killed the owners poodle then went after the owner when he came outside.
Pits can be great dogs and i'm sure some are, but anyone thinking about owning one needs to know exactly what they are about to get into,personally there are too many other breeds out there that make great pets without the risk one would have owning a Pit.
Posted by ryan985
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Posted on 2/25/12 at 8:17 am to
I have seen some nice pit bulls but I would never own one. Know a few people who had to put down their pit bulls after having children because of tendency changes in their pit. We actually treated a pit bull attack the other evening at work.

I have had Labs all my life. My next dog will be my first non Lab which will be a Vizsla
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