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re: What are the pros and cons of 6.5 creedmore
Posted on 1/11/25 at 7:26 am to Bayou_Tiger_225
Posted on 1/11/25 at 7:26 am to Bayou_Tiger_225
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The 6.5 CM has more power to it than the 6.5 Grendel, and I wreck deer with my 6.5 Grendel.
Me as well. I’ll give it to bullet selection as I’ve hunted with SSTs in the .270 and that was moving too fast for short range. All the bullet does is explode. I’ve lived and learned. Spent 8 hrs looking for that buck. I like federals now (forget the bullet).
I don’t really have the opportunity to shoot 350+ yards on deer. I already had the 6.5 grendel, and started bringing it more. It’s just easier on me compared to the .270 win. Vastly different rounds obviously. I’m not hunting elk or moose, I’m hunting at max, 165lbs deer and 250-300lbs hogs.
I enjoy reading everyone else’s perspective.
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Posted on 1/11/25 at 7:42 am to Junky
The 6.5 Grendel with the Barnes 115grain tac tx is a winning combination
Posted on 1/11/25 at 8:13 am to ccard257
Well the .243 has one on the ground. DRT and lots of blood but it was the OB favorite neck shot so that’s cheating.
On a side note, I’ve pretty much only been hunting with my stupid light kimbers the last couple of seasons. It’s nice to shoot something with a little more heft for a change.
On a side note, I’ve pretty much only been hunting with my stupid light kimbers the last couple of seasons. It’s nice to shoot something with a little more heft for a change.
Posted on 1/11/25 at 8:21 am to Bayou_Tiger_225
I have some 100 grain vmatch I’m going to group up in the next couple of weeks. If I can find Barnes locally, I’d grab them.
I’ve been such a 123 gr eld fan the last 6 yrs I’ve never really delved into anything else.
I’ve been such a 123 gr eld fan the last 6 yrs I’ve never really delved into anything else.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 2:03 pm to Citica8
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With the new managed/reduced recoil ammo out now, absolutely, same could be said about 270 in that case.
Factory ammo off the shelf could be a little much for a 70lb 9 year old though.
This is what I did for my kids:
Let them shoot a 22LR at paper to 50yds. No recoil and very little sound.
They shot enough that they could hit a quarter at 50yds. I never let them shoot the 270win even though I knew they could. It's a custom rifle with a fluted sendero 26in barrel. It has hardly any recoil.
My daughter missed a 8 pt at 75 yds and then a doe at 125yds. Both times it wasn't the rifle. Just got too nervous.
My son missed his first deer at 125 yds because he was nervous. At 225 yds he watched them for 10 minutes until he wasn't nervous. Drilled her.
He shot my 7mm rem mag at the range at 200yds and I know he'd be comfortable shooting it. It's another custom rifle and weighs 12lb. Very little recoil.
Shooting paper and shooting deer are 2 different things. I just didn't want my kids experiencing recoil at the range so I let them shoot a 22lr.
They are good shots, just seeing a deer gives them fits lol. But now that they got the first one out of the way they should be good to go.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 6:16 pm to saintsfan1977
Kids are funny. My first deer took me four shots to hit I was so nervous. it must’ve been divine intervention, because she just kept standing there waiting for me to hit her. After the third one, my dad made me take the gun down and look at something else for a minute. Looking back, I don’t remember much if any practice beforehand.
I started my kids off on a .22 with a red dot to build confidence/fun and then put a 4x scope on it when they had half decent fundamentals. Reduced recoil hand loads in their deer rifles after that. Also printed off a bunch of pictures of deer and had him draw dots where he would aim at each one.
My oldest has been cool as a cucumber on his first two. He gets excited talking about it before hand but is all business in the stand and then acts like he’s done it 100 times afterwards. Cracks me up.
I think my youngest may be more like me. we’ll find out next year.
I started my kids off on a .22 with a red dot to build confidence/fun and then put a 4x scope on it when they had half decent fundamentals. Reduced recoil hand loads in their deer rifles after that. Also printed off a bunch of pictures of deer and had him draw dots where he would aim at each one.
My oldest has been cool as a cucumber on his first two. He gets excited talking about it before hand but is all business in the stand and then acts like he’s done it 100 times afterwards. Cracks me up.
I think my youngest may be more like me. we’ll find out next year.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 7:27 pm to mcpotiger
7mm08 is actually slightly better.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 7:31 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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6.5 creedmoor is a great deer caliber and a great long range caliber. It isn't a laser, it does not shoot flat, it does have great ammo avaikability and price, and it does have excellent rifle options.
I agree entirely w/ one caveat: one must using a proper hunting bullet for the CM to be a great deer cartridge. I don't have a 6.5 X 55 like you and I don't have 6.5 CM, but I have a 260 Rem handgun that I've used to kill 8 deer. Using similar barrel lengths and chamber pressures, the 6.5, 260 and Creedmore are ballistic triplets. My "issue" w/ the Creedmore is the availability ammo w/ suitable hunting bullets. Yeah, there's a LOT of 6.5 CM ammo on the shelves, but how much of it uses proper ammo bullets vs target bullets? I recently made a trip to Shreveport and stopped by Academy. Although I handload all my hunting ammo, I took a look at the ammo shelves anyway. There was more CM ammo than anything else, but only about 1/2 of it had a bullet I'd feel comfortable hunting w/.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 7:39 pm to TigerOnThe Hill
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My "issue" w/ the Creedmore is the availability ammo w/ suitable hunting bullets.
Yea. As far as i know there are no 150+ gr soft point options, which is criminal. The 6.5's are spectacular with 150-160gr round nose stuff. It flies in the face of the whole long range thing, but they're still great inside of 500 yards and the terminal performance is excellent.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 7:41 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
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The 6.5 CM has more power to it than the 6.5 Grendel, and I wreck deer with my 6.5 Grendel.
In addition to bullet placement, another key thing is using a suitable hunting bullet. Yeah, the CM has more energy than does the Grendel, but foot pounds of energy/power is not what kills deer. The Grendel has a LOT of hunting ammo for it that uses a good hunting bullet. A good 6.5 mm hunting bullet running at modest muzzle velocity is very deadly on deer. I've killed >25 whitetail deer/mule deer/pronghorn antelope w/ a 14" Contender in 6.5 JDJ at about the same velocity as a 16" Grendel. One of my friends has killed 36 hogs using an AR in Grendel w/ 123 gr Hornady SST. With good shots, all died quickly and were recovered. I'd put more betting money on killing and recovering a deer shot w/ a Grendel and a 120 gr Nosler Ballistic Tip at 2450 fps than a CM w/ 140 gr target bullet at 2650 fps.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 7:54 pm to TigerOnThe Hill
quote:I shoot the Nosler 120s and the 115g Barnes Tac TX. Excellent results with both
I'd put more betting money on killing and recovering a deer shot w/ a Grendel and a 120 gr Nosler Ballistic Tip at 2450 fps than a CM w/ 140 gr target bullet at 2650 fps.
Nosler puts them down quicker, less blood trail
Barnes takes just a bit longer, better blood trail
Posted on 1/12/25 at 8:44 pm to saintsfan1977
If you have a plan for your kids readiness you’re a step ahead.
I’m equally if not more guilty about being prepared for kids shooting at deer as I should have.
My oldest shot dip cans at 30-40 yards on irons sites with a BB gun probably 5 years ago, smoking them. Moved up to the 22 with a scope at paper probably 50 yards 2 years ago grouping inside 2 inches, then handed him a 243. He shot it well.
Spent a very short amount of time (minutes) with a laser pointer on shot placement days before he started carrying a gun to the stand.
It’s not the same when it’s a deer.
I also chose stands that would fit both of us with no more than 100-125 yd shot after that. Probably my best decision.
We had success, but bigger bullet, low recoil, bigger hole, shorter shots is what I’d have improved looking back.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 10:48 am to bayouteche
i don’t have a lot of hunting experience but enjoying getting into it a little more. I shot a nice little buck this year with the ELDX in 6.5 CM at about 160 yds. The deer only went about 30 yards. My biggest concern was 0 blood and a tiny pinprick exit. Now there was massive damage inside the lungs and heart but I worry if he had gotten in the woods another 30 yds or so it would have been tough to find. Should I think about a different bullet. I love the 6.5 but am considering going with a .308. Any thoughts especially about bullet is appreciated.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 11:13 am to chuckitdeep
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love the 6.5 but am considering going with a .308. Any thoughts especially about bullet is appreciated.
A 308 with a eldx or sst or several other same style bullets will probably result in the same as the 6.5cr.
Swap to a Barnes or a bonded bullet and you will probably get exits.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 11:29 am to chuckitdeep
I don’t have a large sample size but have been impressed so far with the 140 nosler BTs in the 6.5. Have had great results with the 100gr version in a .260.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 12:35 pm to chuckitdeep
I'm shooting tipped copper. Nice exit and lots of blood on the first 2 with those. I bought some ELDx but reserved those for the range after reading too many warnings here and elsewhere.
Posted on 2/3/25 at 5:11 pm to Ol boy
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Swap to a Barnes
Freedommunitions has the Barnes 6.5cm TTSX for $25.35 / box right now. The ad says they are regular TSX, but the sku is for TTSX (I wouldn’t care either way).
You won’t find a better price than that. I just bought enough for me and my boy for the rest of our lives.
They also have them in 30/06 for about the same price (also have several different flavors at good prices).
Look on the “Sale” section.
Make sure you use the website name I put here. They sent me a regular email saying that a copycat website is scamming folks (scam site has an “A” between the two m’s)
I’ve ordered from freedommunitions in the past with no problems, but it’s been a couple of years.
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