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re: What are the pros and cons of 6.5 creedmore
Posted on 1/9/25 at 9:14 pm to bbvdd
Posted on 1/9/25 at 9:14 pm to bbvdd
quote:Well yeah?
What? It will do the same to most any other save for a .45-70. Doesn’t matter what caliber, but if a bullet is 140gr or less it will not be moved off target any less than the 6.5.
He asked for a weakness and I gave one. It’s happens to be the weakness of many rounds outside of a 45-70, 30-30, or slug
Posted on 1/9/25 at 9:22 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
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outside of a 45-70, 30-30, or slug
One of these is wayyyyyy unlike the others.
"Brush busting" is a myth. No bullet is going to bust through any brush without getting heavily deflected.
Posted on 1/9/25 at 9:33 pm to mrcoon
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It is a target cartridge. The 260 Rem and 7mm08 already existed before it and are better for hunting.
Please explain how the .260, which is ballistically the same, is a better hunting cartridge.
Posted on 1/9/25 at 9:48 pm to bbvdd
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Please explain how the .260, which is ballistically the same, is a better hunting cartridge.
Well first thing is it’s .260 which is really close to .270 which is the grandfather of all hunting cartridges and almost a 30 caliber. 6.5 millimeter is a diameter that was designed for punching paper and doesn’t carry the energy needed like a 30 caliber bullet will…!!!!!!.
Posted on 1/9/25 at 9:54 pm to Ol boy
What the frick is this authentic frontier gibberish?
Posted on 1/9/25 at 9:57 pm to LoneStarTiger
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What the frick is this authentic frontier gibberish?
He’s being facetious
Posted on 1/9/25 at 10:10 pm to bbvdd
My son shoots a .260. Should I cull him, the gun, or both?
Posted on 1/9/25 at 10:28 pm to Ol boy
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6.5 millimeter is a diameter that was designed for punching paper and doesn’t carry the energy needed like a 30 caliber bullet will…!!!!!!.
That's some bullshite, go stand in front of 6.5 PRC.
Posted on 1/9/25 at 10:39 pm to mrcoon
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6.5CM is still better than a 243 though.
How? 243 has killed tons of deer and still does today. It's not better than a 243 at killing deer. It's only better if you are shooting paper at 1000yds. 98% of people that own one probably won't ever shoot past 300yds. The 243 will kill deer at 300yds all day long just like the 6.5.
Posted on 1/9/25 at 10:49 pm to Clames
Yeah, the PRC in 6.5 is a deer killing machine, but the creedmoor while a tack driver just doesn’t seem to kill deer as well. I’m sure it’s the bullets used, but it’s by far the worst performing caliber in our camp. The cripplemoor joke is spot on, and said very often in camp, and it’s kind of funny that year after year, it lives up to its name…
Posted on 1/10/25 at 7:31 am to LChama
Pros: Low Recoil, lots of ammo available, sounds cool, and with the right hunting bullet and some experience behind the barrel it is a deer killer.
Cons: It's not a good kid's or inexperienced hunters first gun, almost as bad as a .243
It's not as not as flat out to 500 yards as a 7mm08
Out competed in wind drift as well.
They did a great job marketing the cartridge, probably the best ever, and in the right hands it is a deer killer.
If people who touted its ability to be a long range killer, would go practice shooting long range and short range, they would probably wound less deer.
Cons: It's not a good kid's or inexperienced hunters first gun, almost as bad as a .243
It's not as not as flat out to 500 yards as a 7mm08

Out competed in wind drift as well.

They did a great job marketing the cartridge, probably the best ever, and in the right hands it is a deer killer.
If people who touted its ability to be a long range killer, would go practice shooting long range and short range, they would probably wound less deer.
Posted on 1/10/25 at 7:44 am to Clames
6.5x55 was one of the original smokeless cartridges, it was designed for shooting people at long range.
The whole 6.5 = long range thing is ridiculous. Fast twist barrels and long bullets are what makes long range stuff be good at its job.
But, a 6.5 140gr bullet at 2650-2700 fps is a formula literally as old as smokeless powder. Good balance between light recoil high BC and sufficient horsepower. Of course a 300 gr .338 bullet at 3000 fps would be better on target. It also needs to weigh 20 pounds and have a 30+" barrel
6.5 cm is a fine hunting caliber as long as you uses fine hunting bullets and some sense about what you do and do not shoot at.
The whole 6.5 = long range thing is ridiculous. Fast twist barrels and long bullets are what makes long range stuff be good at its job.
But, a 6.5 140gr bullet at 2650-2700 fps is a formula literally as old as smokeless powder. Good balance between light recoil high BC and sufficient horsepower. Of course a 300 gr .338 bullet at 3000 fps would be better on target. It also needs to weigh 20 pounds and have a 30+" barrel
6.5 cm is a fine hunting caliber as long as you uses fine hunting bullets and some sense about what you do and do not shoot at.
Posted on 1/10/25 at 7:48 am to Citica8
The biggest knock against the 6.5 creed, and many other cartridges, is they are not the 257 WBY Death Ray. No handwringing over bullets. No knobs to turn. Just point and shoot. Bang, flop. With the recoil of the 270 WIN.
Posted on 1/10/25 at 8:16 am to Citica8
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It's not a good kid's or inexperienced hunters first gun,
That's not true at all. In fact the article you pulled those charts from stated:
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Indeed, a good rifle chambered in 6.5 Creedmoor is a great gift for a hunter who is just getting started.
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It's not as not as flat out to 500 yards as a 7mm08
Out competed in wind drift as well.
Yeah, 7mm bullets have good BC's too and given the fact 7mm08 is punching harder out of the gate, the difference between the on paper performance is still pretty small and 6.5CM is definitely better in recoil force dept.
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If people who touted its ability to be a long range killer, would go practice shooting long range and short range, they would probably wound less deer.
Can say that about a LOT of hunters, especially. 300 Win Mag variety. 6.5 CM was always touted as a long range target hitter first, in fact many so-called "deer killers" started out as wildcats by people looking for better long range target performance first.
Posted on 1/10/25 at 8:18 am to LChama
Look im not a 6.5 hater. I think its a fine round. I went and got one to try out. I personally, just didnt get results i like and used to.
My experience- it was an amazing shooting gun. Pinpoint accuracy. Loved shooting it. I shot 4 deer with it. A doe, and 3 bucks. One being a buck i took the gun on a trip to missouri. Out of those 4 deer i only recovered 3. And they were LONG trail jobs. I used 2 different types of ammo, both in which were intended for deer, not target shooting. In ranges from 30yards to 150yards. I ended up getting rid of the gun. And going back to my 308 amd 270.
My experience- it was an amazing shooting gun. Pinpoint accuracy. Loved shooting it. I shot 4 deer with it. A doe, and 3 bucks. One being a buck i took the gun on a trip to missouri. Out of those 4 deer i only recovered 3. And they were LONG trail jobs. I used 2 different types of ammo, both in which were intended for deer, not target shooting. In ranges from 30yards to 150yards. I ended up getting rid of the gun. And going back to my 308 amd 270.
Posted on 1/10/25 at 8:20 am to oleyeller
If you get one you will start moaning when you poo.
Posted on 1/10/25 at 8:26 am to Clames
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especially. 300 Win Mag variety
People don't understand that a magnum doesnt make hits easier. It makes it more difficult. I shoot a .338 win mag a fair bit, at least 100 rounds a year. It takes far more practice to make hits at 400 yards with that than with a 6.5x55 despite being vastly more powerful.
The average dude has zero concept about what happens between the trigger pull and the bullet arriving on (or way off) target. The vast majority would be best served with a .270 win and some knowledge about MPBR, and drawing a dont shoot line around 300 yards from their stand. Inside that, point and click. Outside that, don't shoot. Or a 257 weatherby if they like weird shaped stocks and radius shoulders :yak:
I know people who sold their .270 and bought a 6.5 creedmoor because "it's so flat." Gun counter people can be the biggest idiots involved in this and your average dude who dedicated zero brain cells to external ballistics just takes their word for it.
6.5 creedmoor is a great deer caliber and a great long range caliber. It isn't a laser, it does not shoot flat, it does have great ammo avaikability and price, and it does have excellent rifle options.
Posted on 1/10/25 at 8:29 am to 257WBY
I'm too poor to shoot those wine bottles

Posted on 1/10/25 at 8:30 am to bbvdd
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He’s being facetious
lol seven people couldn’t tell that even when I literally said they are the exact same bullet!!
Posted on 1/10/25 at 8:42 am to kengel2
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You automatically grow a man bun, so its good if you're bald.
Awesome! But then I have to get haircuts

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