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KemoSabe65
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re: The great trout debate
Wrong, I fish for an outfit on big lake and the La fish biologists are on hand many days out of the month sampling. Same goes with Calcasieu pt sampling, they are there often.
Wouldn’t bother me not having to catch my limit since I catch most of the fish anyway.


speckledawg
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re: The great trout debate
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nah, they do this for a living. They should have first dibs.




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Motorboat
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re: The great trout debate
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Man I hope this is a troll.


Of course it's a troll


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choupiquesushi
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re: The great trout debate
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Wrong, I fish for an outfit on big lake and the La fish biologists are on hand many days out of the month sampling. Same goes with Calcasieu pt sampling, they are there often.
Wouldn’t bother me not having to catch my limit since I catch most of the fish anyway.

I remember a certain duck guide having to spend a day in federal court about 20 years ago because he was observed NOT shooting his ducks but allowing his client who was ticketed for over the limit... and it did stick....


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bayoudude
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re: The great trout debate
The trout numbers were in decline prior to the spillway openings. I think the biggest factor is the land loss throughout the estuary but especially in south east la. Less marshland means less biomass capacity


GREENHEAD22
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re: The great trout debate
Hook is too shiny.


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drbaseball
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re: The great trout debate
I actually agree with Redneck on this one. The guides should get a higher limit because that’s their living. Most recreational guys go out and catch all these limits for what? Just to stock the freezer? I think we should lower the trout limit to maybe 10-15 for recreational and keep at 25 for guides. Just my opinion though


TarnishedWisdom90
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Member since Sep 2018
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re: The great trout debate
I fish Mobile bay a lot. They changed the limit to 6 per person with a slot of 15-22 inch which only one can be over. It should be 24 or 25 I think but not my call.

The problem is now I know people (myself included) more frequently taking trips to chandeleur for a couple days to bring back bigger bags. This is whats hurting Louisiana waters as well


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choupiquesushi
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The trout numbers were in decline prior to the spillway openings. I think the biggest factor is the land loss throughout the estuary but especially in south east la. Less marshland means less biomass capacity

not just land loss but silting in on areas, and overall degraded estuary habitat as a whole

spillway has very very very little to do with this, if any.
This post was edited on 9/10 at 11:45 am


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rilesrick
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re: The great trout debate
It will be 12/15 over 12" as is should've been for years.
This post was edited on 9/10 at 11:54 am


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TxWadingFool
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re: The great trout debate
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I am not going to spend $75 dollars on gas and $25 dollars on live shrimp


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I am a better than average fisherman




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Motorboat
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re: The great trout debate
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I think the biggest factor is the land loss throughout the estuary but especially in south east la. Less marshland means less biomass capacity


this is certainly true, but guess what else guides will do? They will cut the buoys to artificial reefs so recreational guys can't find them as easily. I'm certain it's happened.


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AlxTgr
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re: The great trout debate
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I think the biggest factor is the land loss throughout the estuary but especially in south east la.
But land isn't habitat.


bayoudude
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re: The great trout debate
Tidal marsh is certainly vital to the fry of many species. There has probably been 40-50% marsh lost out of cocodrie since the 80’s.


choupiquesushi
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yaton rouge
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re: The great trout debate
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The great trout debate
It will be 12/15 over 12" as is should've been for years.
14 and 15


AlxTgr
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Kyre Banorg
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re: The great trout debate
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Tidal marsh is certainly vital to the fry of many species. There has probably been 40-50% marsh lost out of cocodrie since the 80’s.

Seems like there would actually be more marsh now.


wahoocs
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Member since Nov 2004
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re: The great trout debate
The freezes of '17 hurt the population and their size.

The numbers are out there now. Ask any decent fisherman how many throwbacks to keepers they had this year.

In my usual areas, we threw 5-6 back for every keeper, and I had 3 fish over 14" that I caught this year.

And that was in my usual number of summer trips, 6.

Fishing 2-3 in the boat, we did not catch one boat limit this year, but caught way more fish.

Give this batch a chance to grow this winter in the estuaries that are left, and things will get back to normal.


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wahoocs
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Member since Nov 2004
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re: The great trout debate
If size moves to 14" and limit to 15 fish, I will become a full time golfer

Just not worth the hassle, time, and money. And I realize not everyone feels this way, but I don't fish bass to catch and release either.

To each his own, doesn't really matter to me how, if, or why it affects the industry. I'll just move on to the next more enjoyable thing I do.


AlxTgr
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Kyre Banorg
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re: The great trout debate
This discussion made me look up growth. Posting just in case anyone else was wondering:

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Young spotted seatrout grow rapidly, reaching 8 inches by their first birthday and over 12 inches by age 2. Spotted seatrout can live to over 12 years of age. Male trout grow slower and don't live as long as females. Males don't reach 14 inches long until 3 or 4 years old. Few males live over 5, so virtually all spotted seatrout 5 pounds and larger are females.


That doesn't seem like rapidly to me.


choupiquesushi
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yaton rouge
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21436 posts

re: The great trout debate
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Seems like there would actually be more marsh now.
more open shallow water with little in the way of mollusk beds, grass lines and beds - food chain is also suffering.


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