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bearhc
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The great trout debate
I do think that trout limits could be reduced in the short term to facilitate an increase in numbers. If the biologists recommend some sort of ridiculous limit of five trout, the economic impact will be crippling. I am not going to spend $75 dollars on gas and $25 dollars on live shrimp to catch five trout. People who are considering entering the sport will have second thoughts. Boat sales will drop as will revenue from the sale of licenses. The biggest problems for the trout population in southeast La. has been river water being allowed to pour into Black Bay, the opening of the Spillway, and the hard extended freeze recently. I am OK with a 15 fish limit until stocks recover, and they will. I would also be OK with some sort of size adjustment for the short term. Fix the environment and quit blaming the fishermen. I have been fishing for over 50 years, and most people have never caught 25 fish limits even when things were great. I am a better than average fisherman; I catch my fair share of trout, but I cannot consistently catch 25. I am tired of hearing about what Texas and Florida do; Florida in particular has mismanaged their fisheries for years and screwed things up. This is Louisiana.


GoHoGsGo06
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Arkansas also has a five trout daily limit; and only one over 16 in. Which is fine for me because I catch and release.

To each his own, but 25 fish is a lot of freaking fish to clean.


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re: The great trout debate
There’s always a thread on this

LINK


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I am OK with a 15 fish limit until stocks recover, and they will. I would also be OK with some sort of size adjustment for the short term.
You're naive if you think it’ll be short term.


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I am not going to spend $75 dollars on gas and $25 dollars on live shrimp to catch five trout.
This I agree with
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Ron Cheramie
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re: The great trout debate
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I am tired of hearing about what Texas and Florida do; Florida in particular has mismanaged their fisheries for years and screwed things up. This is Louisiana.


Our chickens are finally coming to roost

I don’t care if it’s 15 or even 10 or 5 if it’s the right thing to do

I will still go


bearhc
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re: The great trout debate
It isn't the right thing to do. Look at the manner in which Uncle Sam tried to tell experienced fishermen how to manage the Red Snapper population. They were proved to be wrong of course. I am not opposed to reducing the 25 fish limit, but the key is fixing salinity levels in key breeding areas. This can be done by using diversions in an intelligent manner. Allowing the Mississippi River water to pour into Black Bay through a levee break known as Mardi Gras pass was an absolute joke. Not using the largest river control structure in the state to deal with high river levels is also a joke. More than anything (the oil spill also hurt) salinity levels in key breeding areas has hurt the trout population. The biologists act as if every fisherman is hauling in 25 trout on a consistent basis; they are not. Perhaps we should limit charter licenses; it seems to me there are too many charter captains out there.


bearhc
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We are not talking about fresh water trout.


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REB BEER
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re: The great trout debate
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Arkansas also has a five trout daily limit; and only one over 16 in. Which is fine for me because I catch and release.


Not sure if serious...we're talking about a completely different fish.

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To each his own, but 25 fish is a lot of freaking fish to clean.


Speckled trout are very easy to filet. I can blow through 25 of them in 10 minutes.


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Perhaps we should limit charter licenses; it seems to me there are too many charter captains out there.


This is probably a far bigger issue than the average joe who goes out a couple times a month.


GoHoGsGo06
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Actually I was serious lol. But now that I made a fool of myself, I’m just gonna check out this thread. Y’all have fun.



REB BEER
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Actually I was serious lol. But now that I made a fool of myself, I’m just gonna check out this thread. Y’all have fun.


Nah, you're good. It was an honest mistake. This isn't the OT.


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Ron Cheramie
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re: The great trout debate
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It isn't the right thing to do. Look at the manner in which Uncle Sam tried to tell experienced fishermen how to manage the Red Snapper population. They were proved to be wrong of course. I am not opposed to reducing the 25 fish limit, but the key is fixing salinity levels in key breeding areas


The salinity issues will take years and years to fix if ever But for now, a limit and or size reduction is needed. That is what the biologists are shooting for, and it’s now up to the commission (most are not in the field of natural recourse management) to decide. Let’s hope they listen to the experts


bearhc
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Hey Lego, I though everybody would jump down my throat when I mentioned the charter business. I have nothing against these guys; I even thought about getting a six pack license. We need to stop issuing new licenses at this time. These guys do catch fish. I would also like to know if a charter captain takes out one client, can the captain also catch 25 trout and give them to his client if the client has also caught fish? This should not be the case.


lsu1919
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most people have never caught 25 fish limits even when things were great. I am a better than average fisherman; I catch my fair share of trout, but I cannot consistently catch 25.


It's a lot easier to do now with faster boats that can get to more spots, more tech, better baits, etc. I see guys who can consistently find them and slay them, for no other reason than it's fun and the limit is 25. If the limit was 40 they'd fish till they had 40.

I do agree that the charters are out of control.


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bearhc
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re: The great trout debate
What makes them experts Ron? Why didn't these experts move to close Mardi Gras pass? Why didn't these experts demand the opening of the Morganza/Old River structure? Just because a person has a biology degree does not qualify them as experts. Why don't these experts concentrate on effective use of diversions? I am Ok with a 15 trout limit (most average guys do not catch even this number), but that is not the only answer. I wonder if the state has ever gone to marinas and actually monitored trout catches on a consistent basis. That answer is of course, no.


Ron Cheramie
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re: The great trout debate
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What makes them experts Ron? Why didn't these experts move to close Mardi Gras pass? Why didn't these experts demand the opening of the Morganza/Old River structure? Just because a person has a biology degree does not qualify them as experts. Why don't these experts concentrate on effective use of diversions?


A fisheries biologist is low on the totem pole when you are talking about people that have stroke to open the morganza, closing Mardi Gras pass, diversions, or anything political. This is Louisiana, we have a record of lining politicians pockets rather than doing what is right

We have some great fisheries biologists, but they are not the deciding officials. All they can do is give their opinions and it’s up to others to decide what is ultimately done


Ron Cheramie
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re: The great trout debate
To add to that, there is also an oyster lobby (oyster mafia) that is very politically connected


reggo75
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To add to that, there is also an oyster lobby (oyster mafia) that is very politically connected


I agree that trout fishing is not the only consideration on issues that involve/impact saltwater fishing. Biologist and Commission members have to consider many factors when they make recommendations on these issues.


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jimbeam
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re: The great trout debate
Not today jim, not today jim...


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Our chickens are finally coming to roost

I don’t care if it’s 15 or even 10 or 5 if it’s the right thing to do

I will still go


OB post of the year....


AUCE05
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re: The great trout debate
You got any Arky recs? I want to wade a smaller creek and catch trout.


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