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dandyjohn
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New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
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re: Speckled trout meeting
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Look for 14 inch minimum, 15 total fish. Maybe even an upper slot.


14" min seems a bit extreme but I wouldn't be that upset. An upper slot seems necessary though so that you don't skew keeps towards the females.


TopWaterTiger
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Lake Charles, LA
Member since May 2006
7676 posts

re: Speckled trout meeting
Directly from LSU SeaGrant website:

LSU Sea Trout

Why do we have a 12-inch minimum size on speckled trout?
A minimum size of 12 inches allows most fish to spawn at least once before reaching harvestable size. All of the males and more than 75% of the females are sexually mature at 12 inches long. The minimum size also increases the overall yield of the fishery. Each year since the regulation went into effect, the average size of recreationally caught specks has been more than 13 inches. Before the minimum size requirement, the average size of recreationally taken specks was as low as 10 inches.

Why don’t we have a larger minimum size, such as 14 inches?
Speckled trout have sex-specific growth and survival rates. Males grow slower and don’t grow as large as females. In Louisiana, males do not reach a size of 14 inches until their third or fourth years. Since few specks live beyond age 5, and more than 70% of the total speckled trout population is age 3 or younger, very few males grow to larger sizes. This would result in a loss of recreational opportunity to harvest the males and could possibly cause a shift of harvest pressure to females.

What is the future of recreational speckled trout fishing?
The future of the fishery depends on two factors: good habitat and good management. If our coastal areas remain unpolluted and coastal erosion is controlled, management will be the key. Very few more speckled trout can be produced from other sources. If the entire commercial speckled trout harvest were divided up equally among Louisiana’s over 400 thousand recreational anglers, each sport fisherman would get less than one fish per person per year. Research has also shown that very few speckled trout appear in shrimp trawl bycatch. This means that gains and losses will be the result of management within the recreational fishery. Management priorities, as set by recreational leadership, will determine whether the fishery is managed for liberal limits and smaller fish or restrictive creel limits and larger fish.



Coastal erosion has not been controlled and we have had terrible management from the State. So here we are.


maisweh
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Shrimping industry also has some blame for the lower limits as well 

What? Have you ever been on a trawl boat? Most bycatch is catfish and stingrays


maisweh
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The biologists have gathered data and created models of you will that show what each action (lower limits only, increased length only, lower limits plus increased lengths, etc) would do for the fishery. For instance if you want to have everything back in place by 2025, then option A would do that, They are simply laying out the science and the options and it is up to the LWFC to make the decision 


Too bad where they took their numbers didnt have trout because of the opening of the spillway... and that's where they took majority of their samples...


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DTRooster
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Dtown, La
Member since Dec 2013
5213 posts

re: Speckled trout meeting
You even seen the pocket on a skimmer pushing shallow bays in the marsh? No you haven’t


KamaCausey_LSU
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7132 posts

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The 25 fish they catch do not have the impact of a hard core fisherman that catches 1000 in a year.

Neither one of these people has an effect on the fisheries.


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Mr Breeze
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The Lunatic Fringe
Member since Dec 2010
3892 posts

re: Speckled trout meeting
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Coastal erosion has not been controlled and we have had terrible management from the State. So here we are.


Began fishing with my Dad in the mid 60's the coastal marsh loss since then from Cocodrie over to Grand Isle and Venice up through Lafitte, Breton and Chandelier Islands back into Delacroix and Shell Beach and the Rigolets is nothing short of astonishing.

Lake P with the Wall hindering salt water inflow + Spillway openings has become mostly the Dead Sea.

The days when your limit was the number of those red / white 48 qt Igloo coolers you could fill up are long gone.

Habitat has too and some change has to be made to keep as much of what we have or possibly lose it all.



maisweh
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You even seen the pocket on a skimmer pushing shallow bays in the marsh? No you haven’t


I grew up on the back of a skimmer and a larger trawl boat.


DTRooster
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Dtown, La
Member since Dec 2013
5213 posts

re: Speckled trout meeting
Yeah, ok


maisweh
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re: Speckled trout meeting
You think a skimmer pushes fast and that a skimmer goes faster than trout can swim ??


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Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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re: Speckled trout meeting
Is he calling you a dogfaced pony soldier?


maisweh
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Member since Jan 2014
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re: Speckled trout meeting
I'm not sure what hes calling me but he thinks a skimmer pushes at 10 mph. Also apparently trout cant swim at 3 mph because that's all we ever pushed


Motorboat
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At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
19738 posts

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If you believe their numbers, which I do not.
Not relevant because the decision makers do.


where do you come up with this shit? The reports from other meetings have been that they decision makers are skeptical on the science.


KemoSabe65
Member since Mar 2018
2114 posts

re: Speckled trout meeting
Decision makers are political appointees and for the most point want everyone to like them. They spend most of their time in their home parishes around the peeps.
Did the commissioners attend the meetings being held this month?


Wolfmanjack
Member since Jun 2017
375 posts

re: Speckled trout meeting
Jerri Smitko was at the meeting in Houma. In fact she said there wasn’t a meeting scheduled for this area and she requested one be scheduled here. All I know of her is that she is a lawyer and was appointed by Edwards.


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Islandcat
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Member since May 2011
248 posts

re: Speckled trout meeting
What’s to matter maisweh? You never seen a boat running on top pushing a skimmer with a pocket full of trout before?????? Lol


maisweh
LSU Fan
Member since Jan 2014
3003 posts

re: Speckled trout meeting
As many years as I've butterflied and trawled, the only trout we ever ended up with are white trout. Guess we need to push faster


PapaPogey
LSU Fan
Dulac, LA
Member since Apr 2008
37665 posts

re: Speckled trout meeting
2 points of interest

1. They don’t consider environmental issues in their data

2. Mortality rate average on the gulf coast is 10%, yet they use 25% in all data


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maisweh
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3003 posts

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Damn, look at all those trout in there


maisweh
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Moving so fast the trout cant get away! 2 mph!


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