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Higgysmalls
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re: Speckled trout meeting
Ther were some odd results from that meeting. I think their buzzers were rigged.

There is no way in the crowd that was there that these two were voted.

They said 16% of the people in the meeting voted for a 10 fish limit at 12".

They also said that 26% of the people said less than 5% of undersized fish die after being caught. Even the biologist say it's somewhere around 30%
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Islandcat
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re: Speckled trout meeting
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As many years as I've butterflied and trawled, the only trout we ever ended up with are white trout. Guess we need to push faster


Gotta crank it up to 10 mph brah. But don’t hit 12 mph. You start catching all the dolphins at that speed.


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choupiquesushi
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yaton rouge
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where do you come up with this shit? The reports from other meetings have been that they decision makers are skeptical on the science.


From 2 commissioners


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bearhc
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This issue will ultimately be settled at the ballot box. All fisherman should contact their state legislators and tell them how they feel about this issue. The bottom line is that the trout were there in numbers if you got away from river water. What we should be talking about is why the Morganza Spillway has not been opened in years when it is much larger than the Bonnet Carre.


choupiquesushi
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yaton rouge
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What we should be talking about is why the Morganza Spillway has not been opened in years when it is much larger than the Bonnet Carre
read up on the actual purpose of the morganza spillway and the very real cons of opening it unless absolutely necessary....


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Motorboat
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re: Speckled trout meeting
Now I got your coordinates!


choupiquesushi
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yaton rouge
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with the number of people in SE la that want the MRGO opened back up.. kinda proves what kind of ignorance the LDWF is up against at achieving anything.


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maisweh
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If you really want to hear them slip up and admit that changing the limit doesn’t work..... scroll down to the live stream from the meeting last night. Fast forward to 1:38:17..... and pay attention.......His exact words......” our recommendation was no change, because it would have very little difference in the overall population, and that’s what we tend to see.” Soooo they tend to see changing limits have zero affect on the population, yet thats exactly what they are trying to cram down our throats!!!!


Motorboat
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and we have another poster claiming in another thread that the decision has already been made. Boy, our sport has some real dumbasses in it.


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MrLSU
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re: Speckled trout meeting
Once again we have cut off over 40% of our brackish water flow in Louisiana and converted it to freshwater only.

This is the real reason the fishery numbers are plummeting because this creates a problem for the saltwater fishery as there is no habitat for juvenile species to grow and there is no food source for those juvenile fish/shrimp/crabs/etc to feed on.

The biologist is 100% correct its not going to have any impact for us. The high water from the Miss River isn't impacting the substantial decline in Southwest and Southcentral Louisiana. Has the Miss River impacted the east side the answer is Yes but the real culprit is the MRGO Rock dam and MRGO Floodwall because it has also cut off the brackish water flow by making the water more fresh.

Trout populations are based on juvenile habitat and food supply. In 1985 there were 38k commercial shrimper licenses today there are less than 2k commercial shrimpers so while we can blame it 100% on shrimpers the reality is that the real problem is that since the Supreme Court came down with the water access decision many of these large landowners have cut off what was once an estuary and converted into their own private freshwater marshland thanks to federal and state restoration grants.

White Lake Refuge is approximately 20% of the entire estuary system of the state of Louisiana (72k acres) and it has been totally closed off and cut-off from any Saltwater. It is now 100% freshwater and it does not allow any brackish water into the system.

Marsh Island Wildlife Refuge (70k acres) is now totally closed off to brackish water and is totally freshwater. They have constructed over 40 dams on that formally brackish estuary and have more planned.

Rockefeller refuge (71k acres) is now 85% cut off from brackish water.



Pointe Au Fer Island (7700 acres) is now 90% closed off from brackish water.

Lacasinne Refuge (34k acres) is now 100% closed off from brackish water.

Bayou Thom Reserve is now closed which is another 4000 acres of brackish marsh.

Audubon Reserve is now closed 28000 acres closed and is freshwater only.

Cameron Parish reserve is now closed to brackish water.

The same reason the Salmon Populations have died off in the West which was due to Dams. Louisiana is now following the same techniques that caused the collapse of those fisheries by damming off over 40% of our coastal marsh to brackish water.

The rest of the finger pointing is based on scraps when the real culprit is we have destroyed our water quality. We can go down to 3 fish a day with a 15 inch size limit and 10 years from now that won't be enough to save this fishery. I honestly had no idea that we allowed the state to destroy our brackish marshland and fishery.


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